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To: w1n1

Knife always...

I’ve witnessed many training sessions with 2 cops w/guns and the knife expert always takes them both down. Throat cut/leg artery opened...they’re dead.

The laughing joke around here is don’t bring a knife to a gun fight - laugh all you want. These guys were 20 feet away from each other too when the whistle starts.


5 posted on 03/23/2018 6:09:40 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (This country & world is living on borrowed time (Luke 17:26-27))
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

” These guys were 20 feet away from each other too when the whistle starts.”

Tueller drill.


7 posted on 03/23/2018 6:14:34 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

how does a guy with a knife take down two cops with a gun 20 feet away?

details please

You seem to be implying that a knife is better to have than a gun.


8 posted on 03/23/2018 6:14:45 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

That’s why you always keep something between you and anyone you are suspicious of. A car, a telephone pole, even a trash can - something to block or slow the dude down if he lunges, while you pull your gun.


18 posted on 03/23/2018 6:46:20 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
It's always presented as cops, and an expert knife fighter..

I would like to see the same demonstration between an expert fast shooter, and a run of the mill man on the street with a knife, just to see if the theory still holds.

There are fast shooters who can empty a pistol and reload measured in fractions of a second.

just might not be the knife that has the power, but the "expert".

37 posted on 03/23/2018 8:09:52 AM PDT by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Tueller Drill. Yep. And in everything proficiency matters.


42 posted on 03/23/2018 8:52:21 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Indeed, a good man with a fighting knife can be lethal, but rest assured, anyone who slices/stabs another had better grapple the man as well. Even though it takes about 4-10 seconds for a healthy man to loose consciousness from a severed aorta, four to ten seconds is a lot of time to shoot about 10 shots....

Tactics, not just weaponry is the key.

Regarding the 22 short ( or anything up to 32 ACP for that matter), one ought to consider how much insurance coverage they have on their life- if they think they are worth 10k in life insurance, fine, those platforms/calibers ought to be just fine, but if one decides that they need 500k+ worth of LI, then any platform starting with a “.4” ought to be in their primary hands reach. The mouser- sure, in an ankle holster for those really bad times, along with the fighting caliber and a decent knife....

Now, the little old lady? She ought to be carrying a smaller caliber that she can both handle well and shoot well, tiny platform is probably not it.

example- my wife used to carry a pocket 380, Ruger or Taurus, then rheumatoid arthritis began affecting her ability to operate the tiny platform reliably, she now carries “Walther”- her turquoise P22. She knows that she can back me up as I deal with issues using “JohnM “or “Gaston”.

What’s in your holster?

Finally, truth be told, in over 20 years of CCW cert training, I have seldom found a woman who can effectively use a pocket 380. They do much better with mid to full size 9s or better. Few men can display more than barely adequate skills too with pocket guns-they never think of practicing reloads/IA/RA with the boutique pistols.

Of course, in MO, the qual standard is 15 hits/20 shots from low ready at 7 yards on a B27 or equivalent, so tagging a giant is not the issue. One woman took about five minutes to find her baby 380 in her voluminous purse on range day..... My wife set her straight on off body carry.


46 posted on 03/23/2018 9:13:25 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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