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Microstamping case headed for California Supreme court argument
guns.com ^ | March 13, 2018 | Chris Eger

Posted on 03/14/2018 7:20:30 AM PDT by PROCON

Gun industry groups insist the legal requirement for semi-auto handguns to mark cartridges with a microscopic array of characters, that identify the make, model and a serial number of the pistol upon firing is “impossible to accomplish” in actual field conditions. (Photo: UCDavis)

California’s high court is set to hear arguments in a long running case brought by firearms industry groups who say the state’s microstamping requirement is unattainable.

The case, challenging the state’s 2007 unsafe handgun modification requirements, is set for arguments in a Los Angeles court on April 4.

Plaintiffs, the National Shooting Sports Foundation and the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers’ Institute, insist the legal requirement for semi-auto handguns to mark cartridges with a microscopic array of characters, that identify the make, model and serial number of the pistol upon firing is “impossible to accomplish” and has only worked to artificially limit choices available to California gun buyers. At stake is the ability to purchase newly manufactured semi-auto handguns in the state.

“Since going into effect this ill-advised law has banned the introduction of any new models of handguns into California reducing consumers’ ability to purchase the best and most advanced handguns on the market while doing nothing to improve public safety,” said Michael Bazinet, an NSSF spokesman in a statement to Guns.com.

The suit was originally brought by the trade groups in 2014, arguing that the technology was unproven in actual field conditions and easy for criminals to defeat.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; gungrabbers; microstamping
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To: PROCON

Police your brass! haha

And police someone else’s for easy framing.


21 posted on 03/14/2018 8:14:47 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: PROCON

This law is doing exactly what it was intended to do. Cut off the supply of semi auto pistols.


22 posted on 03/14/2018 8:46:16 AM PDT by umgud
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To: napscoordinator
...where the police find the gun on the person who shot a person. They are the vast majority of murders. This whole “stealing a gun” to shoot someone is very rare unless it is a family member and the gun is in the house.

You have been watching too much TV. The vast majority of murders are never solved.

I can't find the current % of stolen guns used in murders but I did find a statistic from 1991:

"...According to the 1991 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those inmates who possessed a handgun, 9% had acquired it through theft, and 28% had acquired it through an illegal market such as a drug dealer or fence..."

If we just take this at face value, in at least 37% of times where we find a criminal with a gun, tracing the gun would lead us to the wrong person. Now this is not the same as finding cartridge cases and tracing the gun from there, which I suspect would be even worse.

But, the real bottom line is that if we find the gun on the criminal and we have the cartridge cases, we can already match them up by forensic examination.

What this law does is point police to the wrong person in more than 1/3 of all instances.

23 posted on 03/14/2018 9:36:06 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: napscoordinator

Not impossible, but micro stamping is not the magic bullet (pun intended) that the left makes it out to be.


24 posted on 03/14/2018 10:11:38 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: Puppage

use a Colt ARMY 1860. .44, no ballistics on a smashed lead ball, no brass.


25 posted on 03/14/2018 10:36:39 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: napscoordinator

Most shootings are with stolen guns. How would this help?


26 posted on 03/14/2018 10:50:32 AM PDT by CodeToad (Dr. Spock was an idiot!.)
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To: PROCON
Rumor has it that the only reason Glock still manufacturers Generation 3 handguns is for the California market, where they are grandfathered onto the Roster of Certified Handguns.

The newer Gen 4 and Gen 5 pistols can only be sold to law enforcement in Kalifornia. Opening up the roster again to new pistols will end that nonsense.

27 posted on 03/14/2018 10:54:14 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Purdue77
Remove the firing pin, run it over a sharpening stone, no more micro-stamping.

Maryland did not use micro-stamping. It required a fired case from each handgun to be sent to the State Police to be imaged and put into a database. The idea was that ejection markings could be used to identify the gun. In the years they had the program, they had one match.

Soon enough the State stopped scanning the cases. They just threw them all into 55 gallon drums. Finally, the regulation was repealed.

28 posted on 03/14/2018 11:02:54 AM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: PROCON

My guess is that in “The land of the fruits and nuts” they know it is impossible but will pass or have passed a law which says that no gun can be sold or owned in California unless it has such capability.


29 posted on 03/14/2018 11:58:07 AM PDT by Nuocmam (Loose lips sink ships.)
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To: taxcontrol
And don't forget Fire Lapping
30 posted on 03/14/2018 1:26:28 PM PDT by Oatka
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