Posted on 01/13/2018 8:37:58 AM PST by MNDude
This is being set up to try and get a grand jury in Arkansas and out of DC.
If the Perve's testimony can be verified, he would be a credible witness. I doubt Huma would turn against Hillary. She is like Webster Hubble who once said he'd "take it again for the team", or words to that effect. Then there is Sandy Berger who stole damaging docs regarding the Clintons from the National Archives and has disappeared. I still don't understand why he wasn't prosecuted when caught red-handed. There was no way to parse, spin, re-direct when caught with the documents in his pants.
No question.
Then-Pres Obama did not appoint a permanent IG for the State Dept during Mrs. Clinton’s entire tenure.....as required.
When John Kerry took over as Secretary of State, the newly appointed IG found and disclosed that Mrs. Clinton used an illegal secret server, and they immediately identified classified material in the first random sample of only 40 documents.
You make some really good points, and a solid conclusion, that any true bottom line analyst should likely come to as well. The biggest impediment to these charges against the Rats coming to fruition is the fact the President, the chief law enforcement officer of the land, is tied up with a special counsel investigation, and anything he does to try to direct the DOJ in any way shape or form is immediately blasted as obstruction of justice by the full media, and half the Congress. The second biggest impediment is that the Attorney General has foolishly recused himself from being involved in basically any of these investigations of the Rats, leaving the DOJ basically back under the control of the deep state that was there long before Trump and Sessions arrived.
So we're having to fight this war, with basically our 2 best weapons tied up in significant ways. That means that we, the people, will have to keep the fight up, and not get discouraged. Because the deep state is hoping that we won't have the fortitude to keep the pressure up, and will eventually tire out, by always punching but never really landing any. They hope to simply outlast us, before the President and hopefully a new AG get their powers back.
So please hang in there, anyone reading this. Stay focused, and learn the facts about what is going on, so you can properly educate others to the cause. Don't assume we can't eventually win this. But it won't be easy. And it will take everyone's help, even those that are currently skeptical that anyone will actually pay for their crimes, because if we all had that attitude, they will certainly get away with it. Thanks!
I saw all the threads and news articles, but that was FAKE NEWS. Huma's attorney showed up and submitted a doc to halt the divorce proceedings. The Judge complied, as is the norm. They claim they will now settle out of court for the good of their child.
Since they are both knee-deep in the old and new Hillary e-mail investigations regarding classified materials, I don't believe their claim about their kid. They are both as corrupt as the Sun is bright. I'm trying to figure out why this? What is their game-plan now?
Notice that POTUS is saying nothing and directing nothing. He's smarter than the average bear. Ha. Even the big deal about firing Comey has died with the latest info about Comey. Remember when the Dims were calling for his impeachment just for that?
"The second biggest impediment is that the Attorney General has foolishly recused himself from being involved in basically any of these investigations of the Rats, leaving the DOJ basically back under the control of the deep state that was there long before Trump and Sessions arrived."
Agree, he went overboard in trying to look neutral. He should have at least stipulated that anything out of any Russian involvement would be within his authority as AG. As said before, I believe Trump and Sessions are playing rope-a-dope.
Again, where is Hillary, Comey, Huma, et al. with the daily reports about corruption coming out? I'm really curious why Huma and the Perve withdrew their public divorce for private settlement. What's that about? Looks to me like everyone is running for cover and lawyering up.
I've read that and it is plausible, but I doubt it.
That does indeed seem to be the case, but I'm not of the belief it is necessarily a wise strategy. FR is loaded today with cynical posts about the government's ineptitude when it comes to prosecuting these cases, which indicates momentum being lost, and the statue of limitations are supposedly expiring on many things on a regular basis. I'm still hopeful that Trump will eventually play his cards, and they will be winners, but appearing somewhat helpless on these matters for already a quarter of his term has delivered some damage in the minds of some of his own supporters.
I'm really curious why Huma and the Perve withdrew their public divorce for private settlement. What's that about?
I heard someone say that if they are married, that some discussions can be considered confidential. But I am not a lawyer, much less in that particular district or court.
I’m hoping it is so they can both testify against Hillary without having to testify against each other.
Disagree. It is the best strategy. Sit back while the leaks come out to build cases for Grand Juries.
"FR is loaded today with cynical posts about the government's ineptitude when it comes to prosecuting these cases, which indicates momentum being lost, and the statue of limitations are supposedly expiring on many things on a regular basis. I'm still hopeful that Trump will eventually play his cards, and they will be winners, but appearing somewhat helpless on these matters for already a quarter of his term has delivered some damage in the minds of some of his own supporters."
I believe them to be wrong. They are just dis-heartened by depth of the Deep State that now is finally being exposed. I was also dis-heartened during W's second term, and of course, 8 socialist years under Hussein Obama. I never imagined such corruption in the FBI. It was obvious with AG Lynch and Billy meeting on the tarmac, but the FBI Director? That really put a big hit to the heart. Now it's all out there how corrupt Comey was.
"I heard someone say that if they are married, that some discussions can be considered confidential. But I am not a lawyer, much less in that particular district or court."
They way it works: Spouses cannot be compelled to testify against each other, but they can voluntarily testify. When the Fake News of them cancelling their divorce came out, that was the reasoning. However, it turns out they only withdrew the public divorced proceeding and are going to settle in private.
I'm wondering why, since their both knee-deep in the Hillary e-mail classified documents scandal and newly opened investigation. They claim it's for their child. Really? One is a Perve in prison, the other has been attached to Hillary for years and who sent the classified docs to her Perve husband. Please. There's something else going on with them.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3622165/posts
I'd be okay with that if brought Hillary to task, but I prefer Huma goes down, also. I suspect she will. She purposefully transferred Hillary's emails to the Perve. She can claim the 5th or "I don't recall", or "I didn't know they were classified", but forensic evidence is there for a guilty verdict. "Ignorance of the Law, is No Excuse". "Intent" is no excuse, as Comey would have it, who I think Trump and Sessions is gunning for among others.
There should already be more than enough info to proceed if they were really committed to lowering the boom on the Rats, I would think. It took almost nothing to appoint Mueller as special counsel, even knowing the turmoil that would bring the country. We shouldn’t get discouraged, but we can’t assume the right moves are all being made, either. Generally speaking, law enforcement prefers to work on a “hot case” than a “cold one” which is why those terms exist. Too much time for evidence to get buried, alibis to be coordinated, people to forget important details, etc. And in this case, people to lose faith.
If nothing else, it will prove the submersible pump is being placed in the DC swamp. Yes, it will take a long time to drain, but people like Trump, with all his stupid Tweets, are the right people to keep the pump going.
Thanks, I am holding out faith as well, and have been chasing the Clintons on this site for about 20 years all told. We finally have a President that just might do something about them, but he has some personal battles of his own to fight right now. We’ll keep gathering the evidence, waiting for the day. To put in the history books if nothing else.
I think many of the Watergate convictions were for perjury long after the fact and not for the initial crimes. Can a person plead the fifth for a crime which is past the limitation? I don't know.
IANAL (I am not a lawyer) but my understanding is you can plead the 5th anytime you want. However it is usually viewed as an admission of guilt, and typically results in an increase of investigatory powers being used against you to uncover whatever it is that you don't want to discuss. And the more investigatory powers that were used, those came at a cost of resources, therefore they are more likely to throw the book at you if/when they find something. Sort of the exact opposite of a "no contest" plea to a court, where you are throwing yourself at the mercy of the court, essentially pleading guilty, but hoping to get a reduced sentence since the court isn't going to have to expend any resources on the case.
Interesting take, Liz. “Obama the fall guy for HRC”.
I'm sure it took Sessions an entire year to assemble facts/documentation prior to taking this step. He is a former prosecutor who was called “the silent executioner” in Alabama.
Will democrats switch tactics causing hysteria by saying the oceans have risen 40 feet and LA will be under water is 30 minutes... AND after the hysteria and ‘apology’ for the false report expect all of us to engage in a conversation about ‘global warming’...
Democrats will set off sirens next week...
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