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Unacceptable Police Procedure- the Deadly Game of Simon Says
Slow Facts ^ | 11 January, 2018 | Rob Morse

Posted on 01/13/2018 4:48:30 AM PST by marktwain

Innocent civilians are at risk from the police. We’ve had egregious examples in recent months. This is how we can fix these broken police policies, and this is why it’s urgent.

-The police receive a report of a crime in progress. The report is a lie. The person on the phone with the police has made about 20 false reports. The police arrive at your home. It is the middle of the night and you hear yelling from outside. You walk outside to see what is going on. Voices from the darkness say they are the police. Multiple police officers give commands. The police are approximately 35 yards from you. You can’t see them or the police cars. All you see are bright lights and you hear voices. One policeman loses sight of one of your hands. Since you might be going for a weapon, you’re shot dead by police. This happened in Kansas.

-You hear a knock at the door in the middle of the night. You aren’t expecting anyone. You are a law abiding gun owner without a criminal record. You walk to the door armed. That is what self-defense experts, and even some police officers, suggest you do in this situation. A policeman sees you through the sidelights. He is outside your home and you are inside. The policeman sees your gun and shoots you dead. You never made it to the door. This happened in Florida.

These and similar incidents illustrate a dangerous pattern. The police treat possible threats as lethal threats. They then kill unarmed and innocent civilians without warning. The murder is often preceded by a lethal game of simon-says where the police issue commands until the innocent civilian makes a mistake and is killed. In several fatal examples, there were no actual threats

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; immunity; police; shooting
There are multiple examples where the police issue contradictory commands at the same time, which can easily get a person killed.

Don't Move!

Get out of the car!

Drop the Gun! (when it is holstered)

Hands Up!

Open the Door!

The person the police are pointing guns at can chose to follow one command, and be shot by one of the officer issuing a contradictory command.

1 posted on 01/13/2018 4:48:30 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Well just realize the new breed of cops who are too anxious to shoot somebody. They’re experts at justifying, their commanders are experts on befuddling the narratives and the courts are just too easy on occupational immunity.

How long will it be till we start seeing a rash of fake cop invasions, like when real terrorism comes to the U.S. When muslims stake out their territory and put up makeshift road blocks, create very hostile no-go zones for police and then demand autonomy.

Watch the events in Europe. That’s how we’ll go if we globalize on European/Islam terms. If we do go globalization I hope we’re the ones doing the globalization.


2 posted on 01/13/2018 4:58:45 AM PST by Fhios
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To: marktwain

In my neighborhood, the police advice is to not answer the door if you don’t know in advance who is on the other side. Of course, they would say that doesn’t apply to them, but I never answer the door if the visit is not planned in advance.


3 posted on 01/13/2018 5:03:58 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Fhios

this recruiting video says it all - http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/newport-beach-police-recruitment-video-goes-viral-16813214

every Patriot should watch this and wonder.


4 posted on 01/13/2018 5:05:34 AM PST by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp as)
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To: Fhios

“How long will it be till we start seeing a rash of fake cop invasions, “

I read an article several years ago about a series of drug killings where the killers wore jackets emblazoned with DEA or FBI. Their victims surrendered and were executed. (I could not find this article. Do a search and you’ll see why.)

But this tactic is not new. Capone’s shooters in the Valentine’s day massacre pretended to be cops. They made the victims line up against the wall and the executioners shot them with Thompson machine guns.

A friend worked for a company that built police equipment. The salesman had a complete police car that showcased the equipment. He was caught pretending to be a cop by pulling over a detective.


5 posted on 01/13/2018 5:13:32 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: marktwain

When our society was less diverse, we had fewer of these problems. Less overall crime, easier communication, higher social trust and cohesion, and higher standards for police (and everything else). We now have inferior cops policing an inferior populace.


6 posted on 01/13/2018 5:21:41 AM PST by cdcdawg
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To: marktwain

It’s all just a manifestation of the utter contemptfor and dehumanization of everyone other than fellow police. That coupled with the general low IQ and other recruitment standards for new police. Throw in training and protocolst that emphasize an “us vs them” hyper aggressive approach to LE. Finally, never forget that police are the street muscle for corrupt organiztions known as government.No chance for justice under these circumstances unless caught on video and even at that they usually skate ie Betty Shelby, and that murderer in Mesa, AZ.


7 posted on 01/13/2018 5:24:55 AM PST by Bonemaker
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To: marktwain

If you ever watched COPS you will see this often.

Whenever there are two or more officers at the scene they would often give conflicting orders.

I would think at minimum there should be a procedure where one officers states they will be giving the orders.

A simple thing could save lives.


8 posted on 01/13/2018 5:25:53 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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To: marktwain

It’s not the cop. It’s the SOP. They are told to do these things, told that we are the enemy.. basically.


9 posted on 01/13/2018 5:52:42 AM PST by Celerity
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To: Bonemaker

I watched the Mesa video.
It was murder.
I will not play Simon says games for me.


10 posted on 01/13/2018 5:59:06 AM PST by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorable)
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To: marktwain

”STAND DOWN!”

Wait...what?
Should I just stand here or should I lay on my belly?


11 posted on 01/13/2018 6:01:59 AM PST by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: marktwain

When cops are a bunch scared girls, with no more restraint than a frightened girl and no more shame than a scared girl, that’s it. There is no fix for that. It is cultural.


12 posted on 01/13/2018 6:20:52 AM PST by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Whenever there are two or more officers at the scene they would often give conflicting orders.

This is done intentionally to confuse and disorient the subject..........

13 posted on 01/13/2018 6:21:14 AM PST by varon (Let the hanging games begin.............)
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To: marktwain

People need to learn to ignore what the cops tell you to do if their commands threaten you legally or physically in any way. For example, don’t ever answer any questions a cop asks you without an attorney present. Ever! Just keep your effin mouth shut and continually demand that an attorney be summoned. Similarly, if you’re confronted with armed cops ready to shoot you down, just stand totally still with your hands interlocked on the top of your head and don’t move a frikkin muscle, and continually demand that an attorney be summoned. Yeah, you’re in a compromising position, but if you demand that an attorney be present, any altercation that happens will be their fault and not yours and will likely be captured on film, to the cops detriment after the fact. Don’t follow their bullshiite orders to “do this” or “do that” or do a GD thing, if you don’t want to take a dirt nap. Just stay still and stay frosty.


14 posted on 01/13/2018 6:21:41 AM PST by DrPretorius
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To: marktwain
When confronted by LEO with weapons drawn;

Irregardless of commands spoken,

1. Raise your arms fully above your head, fingers spread,

2. Kneel.

3. If possible, with your arms still extended, go to the prone position.

4. Say nothing and ignore all the shouting. Stay Prone and silent until you are cuffed.

5. Remember as many names as possible. Make no effort to explain the error. The only words from your mouth is to your lawyer.

6. Pick a nice place for this year's vacation.

I am NOT law enforcement. But I offer this advice based on the various situations I have seen where bodycams are used.

15 posted on 01/13/2018 6:26:01 AM PST by M.K. Borders (All I require of my government is the liberty my Grandfathers were born to.)
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To: varon

If true, it is wrong.


16 posted on 01/13/2018 6:40:09 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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To: marktwain

Cops are amateurs interested in nothing but their paychecks, side jobs and pensions. “To protect and to serve” has become a joke.


17 posted on 01/13/2018 6:52:17 AM PST by wny
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To: marktwain

Remind anyone of the shooting of West Point graduate Eric Scott outside the Costco in Las Vegas by a bunch of jackboots from Las Vegas Metro?


18 posted on 01/13/2018 7:14:43 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (SCHLONGED: How Donald Trump Beat My Lying, Marxist Ass and Went On to Win the November Election. HRC)
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To: marktwain

A large majority of conservatives choose to side with the police state against the American people after 9/11. They threw away the entire tradition of conservative defense of liberty overnight. That is what brought us to this point.


19 posted on 01/13/2018 10:26:25 AM PST by WatchungEagle
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

That was one bad one, the other was the poor drunk guy in the hotel.


20 posted on 01/13/2018 5:30:18 PM PST by suthener
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