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WaPo Predicts a Hillary Win in 2020 Rematch
Accuracy In Media ^ | October 26, 2017 | Brian McNicoll

Posted on 10/28/2017 10:15:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Protests to the contrary notwithstanding, Hillary Clinton is still interested in being a presidential candidate in 2020.

Further evidence of this emerged this week with a Washington Post piece headlined, “Hillary 2020? Trump better hope not.”

It then goes on to outline why Clinton “would be well-positioned to win in a rematch.”

In response to an Oct. 16 tweet in which Trump said he’d been asked whether “Crooked Hillary Clinton is going to run in 2020 …” and said, “I hope so!” Michael Brenes, a historian and senior archivist at Yale University, said not so fast.

“Putting aside the reckless braggadocio – and blatant sexism – inherent in such a statement, the entire scenario seems absurd,” Brenes wrote. He did not explain what was blatantly sexist about Trump predicting he would win a rematch.

Few expect Clinton to run, he said, and most doubt she could win the Democratic nomination if she did. Clinton herself has said she has no plans to run.

“Trump should be careful what he wishes for,” Brenes wrote. “Clinton might not be a potential candidate now, but the political winds can change quickly. Recent American history is rife with presidential contenders who lost the primary or general election and then went on to become a candidate in subsequent elections.”

Yes, many losing candidates do try their luck later in other elections. But at the presidential level, losing becomes its own impediment. People don’t want to back a candidate who has run and lost before, as Mitt Romney found out abruptly from the colder-than-ice reception he received when he floated the idea of jumping into the 2016 race.

Clinton lost twice when heavily favored against political novices when her supposed advantage – in-depth knowledge of policy in a variety of areas – ended up helping little. There is evidence her campaign and the Democratic National Committee colluded to shut out Bernie Sanders.

Not only that, she lost in both cases because she ran badly managed campaigns that misallocated resources, could not settle a consistent message and were not able to portray Clinton in the best light. A scandal that was not present even on Election Day emerged that likely would weaken whatever enthusiasm there might be for her campaign.

Brenes said all this can be overcome because of Trump’s “abysmally low approval ratings and inability to deliver on signature campaign promises (building a border wall, ending NAFTA and repealing the Affordable Care Act, to name a few), and Clinton could once more emerge as a serious challenger.”

Meanwhile, samples of what the wall might look like are up now near San Diego along the Mexican border. NAFTA is being renegotiated, and Trump, with his recent executive orders, has, for all intents and purposes, repealed Obamacare anyway.

Brenes’ point is that Clinton still “retains significant support within her party, and Democrats currently have no clear front-runner to replace her.” No one questions the Clintons could raise significant money for such a run, and Brenes claims she would have a “vibrant, large, motivated base of supporters angry at Trump, Russian interference in the election and former FBI director James Comey – in their minds, the collective robbers of Clinton’s presidency.”

Trump could find himself in trouble in 2020 if an unpopular war breaks out or the economy falters, and voters “come to believe they made a mistake and look to Clinton to rectify the wrong,” Brenes said.

But “like Nixon and Reagan, Clinton can win the presidency in 2020 thanks to a combination of demographic and electoral shifts among voters and uncertainty about their futures.”

This is an example of a go-against-the-grain story designed to provoke thought. The writer is given some leeway to get the discussion flowing. But when you have someone declaring she would have a “vibrant, large, motivated base of supporters” doubly angry at Trump, you’re substituting wishful thinking for clear and hope for reality.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2020; 2020demprimary; democrats; hag; hillary; trump
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

2019 Hillary will be campaigning in a motorized shopping cart, driving out of control, knocking people over and shouting warning, campaign slogans and excuses. “Out of my way! We are moving FORWARD in 2020 with CLINTON! Vote Hillary 2020! TRUMP and the RUSSIAN can’t stop me now!


101 posted on 10/28/2017 12:51:33 PM PDT by A. Morgan (Ayn Rand: "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: LS

MN as well.


102 posted on 10/28/2017 1:24:43 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

would be fun to watch the trainwreck


103 posted on 10/28/2017 1:26:26 PM PDT by Leofl (I'm from Texas, we don't dial 9-11)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She has to 1) Still be alive 2) Not be under indictment or be incarcerated at Leavenworth, 3) Able to walk around without a big Black guy with a syringe at the ready for when she pulls another “Weeble Wobble” getting into her assault van.


104 posted on 10/28/2017 1:29:07 PM PDT by vette6387 (LOCK HER UP! COMEY TOO.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I dug up this WaPo story. Dateline is 8 November, 2016:

A Comprehensive Average Of Election Forecasts Points To A Decisive Clinton Victory.

Good call, guys.

105 posted on 10/28/2017 1:31:13 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She won’t make it to 2020, IMO.


106 posted on 10/28/2017 1:37:56 PM PDT by Fireone (Lock Her Up! (and 100 of her accomplices))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

107 posted on 10/28/2017 1:39:58 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Good - we can recycle some good stuff....


The above portrait has been modified as a parody - don't take it literally....

108 posted on 10/28/2017 1:51:29 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Democrats would have to do a better job next time of “fixing” the election results.


109 posted on 10/28/2017 1:52:34 PM PDT by KittyKares (Drain the Swamp)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She’ll have to run her campaign from prison.


110 posted on 10/28/2017 2:04:45 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She will not run.

Stagger, collapse, or fall maybe.

But she will not run.


111 posted on 10/28/2017 2:05:19 PM PDT by lurk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Omg drug problem worse than i thought


112 posted on 10/28/2017 2:24:39 PM PDT by genghis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She couldn’t win the DNC nomination.


113 posted on 10/28/2017 2:29:10 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
She'll be 74 and her health makes it doubtful she will run again. Articles like this are really about wishing she had won instead of hoping she can win next time.
114 posted on 10/28/2017 2:31:19 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WaPo will be just as accurate in this prediction as they were last November’s election......


115 posted on 10/28/2017 5:04:45 PM PDT by Arlis (u)
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To: NFHale
““Hale Predicts Instant Civil War” if that happens..”

HELL will freeze ove before Hillary runs for president again. It's hard to do that from either: 1) a Pine box (much preferred) or 2) a cell in Leavenworth Federal Penitentiary (it will do).

116 posted on 10/28/2017 6:33:24 PM PDT by vette6387 (LOCK HER UP! COMEY TOO.)
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To: oldenuff35

“Most of us will say the right words but be glad she is gone.”

I don’t know about you, but my “right words” are: Ding dong, the wicked witch is dead! There is absolutely no reason to chrome plate this turd.


117 posted on 10/28/2017 6:35:24 PM PDT by vette6387 (LOCK HER UP! COMEY TOO.)
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To: justa-hairyape

“Hillary run ? She has problems walking.”

Like most politicians, Hillary “Gets the Runs” every four years!


118 posted on 10/28/2017 6:39:11 PM PDT by vette6387 (LOCK HER UP! COMEY TOO.)
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To: COUNTrecount

Her “Oven Mitt” outfits are so “stylish!” It’s really hard to find clothing that can cover up an a$$ like a government mule!


119 posted on 10/28/2017 6:41:32 PM PDT by vette6387 (LOCK HER UP! COMEY TOO.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We’ve had the “Western White House”, how about the “Greybar Whitehouse”? She would be running her administration from JAIL, in a just world. Better, she would not be eligible to run for anything, including dogcatcher.


120 posted on 10/28/2017 9:52:51 PM PDT by EinNYC
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