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Indigenous Peoples Day? Italians say stick with Columbus
The Associated Press ^ | October 9, 2017 | Deepti Hajela and Dake Kang

Posted on 10/09/2017 9:18:39 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Is it time to say arrivederci to Christopher Columbus?

A movement to abolish Columbus Day and replace it with Indigenous Peoples Day has gained momentum in some parts of the U.S., with Los Angeles in August becoming the biggest city yet to decide to stop honoring the Italian explorer and instead recognize victims of colonialism.

Austin, Texas, followed suit Thursday. It joined cities including San Francisco, Seattle and Denver, which had previously booted Columbus in favor of Indigenous Peoples Day.

But the gesture to recognize indigenous people rather than the man who opened the Americas to European domination also has prompted howls of outrage from some Italian-Americans, who say eliminating their festival of ethnic pride is culturally insensitive, too.....

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: History; Politics
KEYWORDS: columbus; columbusday; indians; indigenous; italians

1 posted on 10/09/2017 9:18:40 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is simply a no win situation.


2 posted on 10/09/2017 9:20:13 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Could we say it was the Hispanics / Latinos who sent Columbus to America, and it was Hispanic who conquered South America, central America and parts of North America.


3 posted on 10/09/2017 9:25:14 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: Biggirl
> This is simply a no win situation.

It's a sticky one.

Reminds me of the story of Br'er Rabbit and the Tar Baby.

Oops, I guess that's racist now too.

Never mind...

4 posted on 10/09/2017 9:27:30 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If a group wants to have an “indigenous peoples day” fine.
Make it any day except Columbus Day.


5 posted on 10/09/2017 9:27:49 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Biggirl

> This is simply a no win situation. <

Oh, but there will be a winner. Columbus Day will eventually go, and some form of Indigenous Peoples Day will replace it.

Today’s America is like a baseball game where one team (the liberal team) is always at bat. Always. The best the conservatives can do is hold down the liberal’s run production.

So one day some liberal president will abolish Columbus Day by the stroke of a pen. If Hillary had won, you can bet she would have done it.


6 posted on 10/09/2017 9:37:32 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IT IS COLUMBUS DAY! Screw the indigenous day BS. America is here, it is successful, because of people like Columbus. The alternative would be what, subsistence-living natives barely scratching out an existence? Do these idiots suggesting indigeous day prefer no America? Do they hate America that much?!


7 posted on 10/09/2017 9:37:37 AM PDT by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d go to our favorite Italian restaurant to celebrate Columbus Day, but I’m afraid the Mexican cooks (legal/illegal?) would spit in our food. I also think the swarthy-looking gentleman that waited on us last time was Middle Eastern...something about the accent.


8 posted on 10/09/2017 9:40:06 AM PDT by moovova
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As someone who read in the unprinted back pages of our Family Bible reserved for births, deaths and marriage events, an entry stating, “John, Ellen and 2 infant daughters murdered by Chickasaw Indians, they can take the Indigenous Peoples Day and shove it.


9 posted on 10/09/2017 9:43:59 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Men stand up for freedom; slaves kneel before their masters.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Indigenous Peoples never knew what s ship looked like or what a wheel was until Christopher Columbus showed up yep it’s Columbus Day alright.


10 posted on 10/09/2017 9:45:08 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

when do we get to the human sacrifices?

the indigenous people use to have rivers of blood flowing from their pyramids

and when do we get new soccer balls?

or do we just forget that stuff?


11 posted on 10/09/2017 9:45:47 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go up and take a walk through the Indigenous Peoples paradise of Browning, MT.

It’s a concentration camp that votes Democrat.


12 posted on 10/09/2017 9:48:24 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: sten

How about declaring a Feast Day using ONLY American Indigenous foods!
Slugs, snails,crickets, fly maggots, earthworms, skunks, grasshoppers, deer, salmon, shellfish, and Lots of other yummy bugs they would not touch on a bet today!

Somewhat earlier, in 1845, Captain John C. Fremont3 was impressed with a windrow of kutsavi which he described as 10-20 feet in breadth and 7- 12 inches deep. Fremont related an experience told to him by an old hunter, Mr. Joseph Walker. Walker and his men had surprised a party of several Indian families encamped near a small lake who had abandoned their lodges at his approach, leaving everything behind them:

“Being in a starving condition, they were delighted to find in the abandoned lodges a number of skin bags, containing a quantity of what appeared to be fish, dried and pounded. On this they made a hearty supper; and were gathering around an abundant breakfast the next morning, when Mr. Walker discovered that it was with these, or a similar worm, that the bags had been filled. The stomachs of the stout trappers were not proof against their prejudices, and the repulsive food was suddenly rejected.”

http://www.hollowtop.com/finl_html/amerindians.htm

https://books.google.com/books?id=5wGpZagXWlsC&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=california%20indians%20eating%20pulverized%20earthworms&source=bl&ots=V8SZlqG0PS&sig=392B0XFCWVsQtVO96MZwtOy_-n0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjm1bjA7YHWAhUI32MKHbAHAcwQ6AEIQzAH#v=onepage&q=california%20indians%20eating%20pulverized%20earthworms&f=false


13 posted on 10/09/2017 10:01:20 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Biggirl
Indigenous Peoples Day? Italians say stick with Columbus

Italians?
I am not Italian and I will stick with Columbus until I die; what's more, I will celebrate the holiday on Thursday, the 12, the revisionists be damned.
So sue me.

This is simply a no win situation.

I fail to see this as a "win" - "no win" issue.
Columbus spread the discovery through his known world , with the help of Americo Vespucci, the cartographer, and it is irrelevant to me if the Chinese, the Scandinavians or some anonymous Asians came across the Siberian land bridge or if Polynesians arrived via the Pacific Ocean.
None of these allowed the discovery to become world-wide common knowledge.

Moving right along...

Big whoop.

14 posted on 10/09/2017 10:33:18 AM PDT by publius911 (Seriously??)
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To: Reno89519
Do these idiots suggesting indigeous day prefer no America? Do they hate America that much?!

Yes.
So what?

They can continue hating to their heart's content.
They can claim that antifa discovered America, for all I care.

15 posted on 10/09/2017 10:37:46 AM PDT by publius911 (Seriously??)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Actually, it's Discover America Day, but it is celebrated on Christopher Columbus' birthday. He happened to be the first one to get here and bring back stuff that encouraged the Europeans to come back and get more involved. If it wasn't Columbus in 1492, it would have been somebody else in later years.

In any event, it's unlikely that somebody would not have found it by now.

16 posted on 10/09/2017 12:13:09 PM PDT by Bernard (If we could tax Stupid, Congress could balance the budget)
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To: Bernard

“In any event, it’s unlikely that somebody would not have found it by now. “

If only for the casinos.


17 posted on 10/09/2017 9:19:12 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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