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Senate Approves Legislation to Get Self-Driving Cars On U.S. Roads
Futurism ^ | October 1, 2017 | Claudia Geib

Posted on 10/01/2017 8:16:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Senate has agreed to pass legislation lifting regulations on manufacturers of self-driving cars. Full details will be announced the first week of October, but it's expected the bill will cover safety and manufacturing regulations as well as driver protection.

Paving the Way

United States roadways are one step closer to being traversed by driverless cars: on September 30, the Senate announced that it had reached an agreement to lift some of the regulations on manufacturers that made it harder to get self-driving cars on the road.

“While this Senate self-driving vehicle legislation still has room for further changes, it is a product of bipartisan cooperation we both stand behind,” said Senate Commerce Committee Chairman John Thune (R-S.D.) and Sen. Gary Peters (D-Mich.), who introduced the legislation, in a joint statement.

The original bill that Peters and Thune took to the Senate, known as the American Vision for Safer Transportation through Advancement of Revolutionary Technologies (AV START) Act, was broad-reaching. In addition to removing barriers to manufacture, the bill proposed enhanced safety oversight of manufacturers, as well as guidance for state and local research on traffic safety and law enforcement challenges. It proposed to strengthen cyber-security policies to protect the information and safety of drivers. The bill also included measures on automated trucking, consumer education, and protections for drivers with disabilities.

On October 5, the Senate will announce which provisions were retained in the approved legislation.

The bill is expected to utilize some provisions from a similar bill that was passed in the House of Representatives earlier in September. That bill allowed manufacturers to produce an initial load of 25,000 cars in the first year. After three years, if they can prove that AI vehicles are at least as safe as human-directed cars, that will increase to 100,000 annually.

Jobs and More

American policymakers and manufacturers alike have been hurrying to get aboard the self-driving train—so to speak. Around the country and the world, self-driving cars are rapidly multiplying. The UK will be testing “platoons” of driverless semi trucks by the end of next year. Uber already uses them to pick up passengers in Pittsburgh and Arizona, Lyft is introducing them in San Francisco, and the city of Sacramento is seeking to make their city a driverless car testing ground. Tesla CEO Elon Musk even believes that most cars in production will be autonomous within ten years.

Yet the legal framework still isn’t in place for this transportation revolution.

“Self-driving vehicles will completely revolutionize the way we get around in the future, and it is vital that public policy keep pace with these rapidly developing lifesaving technologies that will be on our roads in a matter of years,” said Senator Peters, in his statement on the original bill. He emphasized that the industry has the potential to create thousands of new jobs.

Given that approximately 93% of all accidents have been attributed to human error, the senators and others have emphasized that self-driving cars aren’t just a job creator or a cool way to get around—they could save millions of lives.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: automation; automobiles; automotive; bots; nothanks; reboot; robotcars; selfdrivingcars
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To: Olog-hai

Nothing about this was outlawed to increase demand. more lies from you.

And we’ve already established there IS a demand for this product. more lies from you.

Stop lying and I’ll stop pointing out your lies. It’s not an ad hominem to point out you are lying. Because ever since you insisted lobbyist are part of the government you can’t put together a sentence without lies.


81 posted on 10/03/2017 4:26:09 PM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: discostu
Since you can’t reply without ad hominem now, I have to conclude that you care nothing about the truth and have an agenda. I lie about nothing; I only comment on what I see. You, however, are deceiving yourself by insisting that lobbies are private in nature. The Founding Fathers were utterly against lobbies, and their destructive bent, because of it being anti-republic and tending to grow government.

If of course all lobbies, politicians and other special interests get out of the way of industry and the market demand for self-driving cars grows to the point where orders are so placed and they fly off the assembly lines, then so be it. This is what I want to see. Lobbies and Congress getting involved in promoting them is not the same as that; there is no bent among RINOs to free up the market in that manner.
82 posted on 10/03/2017 4:41:07 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai
Not parallel semantics either.

Of course it is semantics. You're not creating a separate concept by applying bureaucratic and union rule making, in addition technological hindrances of the past, onto the idea of an automated piloting system.

A presumably autonomous car would be a far different animal, and not automatically worthy of absolute trust.

This is why I'm not concerned, as the data continues to roll in showing the inferiority of distracted meat bags compared to route following collision avoidance software that doesn't have an ego to feed, operating costs will move with it.

The most dangerous things on the road are unpredictable people.

Look at the accidents per milemstats for automated cars and realize that these stats will only improve as infrastructure design itself begins incorporating driverless aids.

83 posted on 10/03/2017 7:37:55 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3

… distracted meat bags …
Sounds like misanthropy, with all due respect.

Remember, it is those selfsame “meat bags” that design both the automobile and the software for the automation the governing meat bags are proposing. The rule with computer programming is still “garbage in, garbage out” and the fallibility remains, never mind the tragedies that can result from either hacking or BSODing. Never mind that none of these proposals can overcome sudden severe weather situations, including winter weather.

I have no problem with the free market demanding this technology in and of itself, but by itself. I see too many governments trying to push the technology, however, and that is what makes me wary.
84 posted on 10/03/2017 7:53:00 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

BAHAHAHAHAHA the guy who lays claim to the right to make his own definitions of words accuses somebody else of having no interest in the truth?! BWAHAHAHAHA.

You have lied about EVERYTHING. That’s not an ad hominem, it’s the simple fact. You can’t even be truthful with the definition of one word.


85 posted on 10/04/2017 7:39:59 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: discostu

You appear to be having a breakdown.

Remember that lying implies intent. You claimed in an earlier post that you could point out my alleged “lies”, but a conservative would have instead pointed out my errors—significant difference.


86 posted on 10/04/2017 8:10:54 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

I DID point out your errors. And you replied that you don’t have to follow the dictionary definition of a word. That’s when you moved from error to intent.


87 posted on 10/04/2017 8:45:13 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: discostu
Given how non-immutable dictionary definitions are, that is a tenuous leg to stand on. It is also argumentum ad verecundiam, precisely because of that. Take the definition of the adjective “gay”, for the biggest example. I am reminded too much of the infamous DSL.

For the record, the definition of lobbying historically encompassed the influencing of votes by politicians, thus turning those who were private individuals into public. It was always regarded as a corrupt practice. The intent of the Founders and Framers, FWICS, was to make the Constitution immutable enough so that this phenomenon would stay outside the federal level, but the 16th and 17th Amendments made the 10th Amendment invalid in that respect.

And I reassert that any nominally private corporation that has, as the communists intended (per The Naked Communist), been taken over by communist ideologues, is not private in nature but 100 percent political—communists see no difference between government and industry. The lobbying behavior of any such corporation makes that clear.
88 posted on 10/04/2017 9:12:18 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Here you go again with your lies. The problem was you kept insisting lobbyist are part of the government. Now you’ve weaseled around to “insisting” they’re political. Of course they’re political, they’re job is pushing a political agenda. But that WAS NOT your original statement, this is your original statement: Lobbyists are government. That is not true.


89 posted on 10/04/2017 9:16:52 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: discostu

I’m sorry that you cannot tell metaphoric language; that was my fault, if so. If lobbies successfully influence the government, they are a part of it, particularly where their successes (de facto legislating) affect the lives of private citizens. Especially foreign lobbies. Actions define things, rather than nominative definitions. Those lobbyists that are communists are especially government, even beyond a metaphoric indication.


90 posted on 10/04/2017 9:28:47 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

That wasn’t metaphorical language. That was your retort to me saying lobbying push the government. That’s not metaphor, that’s you making up your own definition to words.


91 posted on 10/04/2017 9:42:09 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Making driving more affordable one stupid idea at a time.


92 posted on 10/04/2017 9:44:05 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: discostu

Do you know the difference between simile and metaphor? The latter is saying that one is the other, versus one being like the other. And in practice, lobbying goes beyond the metaphorical, anyhow; we are living with the effects of it all around us. My statement is a fair statement.


93 posted on 10/04/2017 9:45:49 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: discostu

I would say have full auto pilot on interstates. In the city not so much.


94 posted on 10/04/2017 9:48:36 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Olog-hai

That sentence makes no sense as either simile or metaphor. I said governments get pushed by lobbyist all the time, you said no they don’t lobbyists are government. Your statement is wrong, your attempts to make that statement mean something else are lying.


95 posted on 10/04/2017 9:56:14 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: discostu
Okay; it makes no sense to you. I suppose I can understand that.

In the context of the depredations of legislation and judicial acts on behalf of lobbies, it makes a lot of sense, including the 37th goal of communists mentioned in the twelfth chapter of The Naked Communist. It makes even more sense in the context of foreign lobbies and how the USA in both government and society alters itself to resemble the governments who support those lobbies.
96 posted on 10/04/2017 10:11:17 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

No it makes no sense. If we unpack your supposed simile you said that lobbyists don’t push government are so influential in DC they’re like the government. But if lobbyists are so powerful they’re like the government then indeed lobbyists DO push the government which is the statement you were arguing against.


97 posted on 10/04/2017 10:14:14 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: discostu

You commit more errors of omission. What I said in post #67 was “lobbyists are government, albeit a foreign government”. I did not say they were the US government. You’re arguing something I did not say, and are twisting what I did say.


98 posted on 10/04/2017 10:28:07 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

So now you’re saying it wasn’t metaphor or simile? And let’s not forget this part of your post: The last thing they are is private industry.

You got caught lying, and you lie and lie and lie to weasel out of it. I’ll give you the last word, I’m sure it will be filled with more lies, and I really just cannot be bothered to read anymore of your idiotic weaseling. Goodbye, good luck, good riddance.


99 posted on 10/04/2017 10:38:02 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: discostu

No, I’m saying you’re parsing my words. That’s not honest debate.

Have a nice day, sir.


100 posted on 10/04/2017 10:50:27 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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