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Wisconsin suicide prevention bill would let people ban themselves from owning guns
guns.com ^ | Sep. 21, 2017 | Andrew Shepperson

Posted on 09/21/2017 7:16:39 AM PDT by PROCON

A Wisconsin state lawmaker has proposed a bill that would let people ban themselves from owning handguns as a suicide prevention measure.

The proposal, filed as LRB-3529 by Democrat Rep. Melissa Sargent, would allow people who may be at risk of suicide to ban themselves from being able to buy handguns in Wisconsin.

Individuals who choose to take part in the Firearm Self-Exclusion Program would have the choice of excluding themselves from handgun purchases for one, five or 20 years, with the first year being irrevocable.

“Nearly half of the suicides that occur in Wisconsin annually involve firearms,” Sargent said in a news release, “and this bill can help ensure persons experiencing suicidal ideations or a mental health condition can take proactive steps to keep themselves safe when they’re in crisis.”

Sargent’s bill was modeled after similar gambling self-exclusion programs in other states around the Midwest, the Wisconsin State Journal reported.

Sargent said those who want to take part in the program would have to apply with the Wisconsin Department of Justice. If people involved in the program wish to purchase handguns after the one year irrevocable period, they could reapply with the DOJ so long as a psychiatrist or psychologist assisted them.

While the lawmaker expects there to be heated opposition to the measure, she said the bill was written in such a way that it would not restrict lawful gun owners’ Second Amendment rights.

“This is not a bill that will take away anyone’s guns. This is a voluntary program,” she said. “We’re providing them with a solution, with empowerment … to make them safer.”

The proposed legislation is currently being circulated for co-sponsors.


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KEYWORDS: banglist; gungrabbers; liberalism; melissasargent; suicide; wisconsin
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“This is not a bill that will take away anyone’s guns. This is a voluntary program,” she said. “We’re providing them with a solution, with empowerment … to make them safer.”

Real message here:

You see, if you give up your guns, you'll be "safer".

1 posted on 09/21/2017 7:16:39 AM PDT by PROCON
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2 posted on 09/21/2017 7:17:16 AM PDT by PROCON (#MAGA)
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If it’s voluntary why do we need a program at all. If someone doesn’t trust themselves with a gun they are free to rid themselves of firearms


3 posted on 09/21/2017 7:19:32 AM PDT by slumber1 (Islam delenda est)
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To: PROCON

Isn’t it already legal to not own a weapon?

Why would anybody need a law like this?


4 posted on 09/21/2017 7:19:56 AM PDT by Fai Mao (I still want to see The PIAPS in prison)
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To: PROCON

Maybe she can convince all of the bad guys to follow through with this and crime with guns will magically go away in Wisconsin. She goes to show that even stupid people need representation.


5 posted on 09/21/2017 7:23:38 AM PDT by Purdue77 (I can't afford a tag line.)
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To: Fai Mao

Because it will be expanded to include “Mental health care professionals” who will be authorized to invoke the law on your behalf.


6 posted on 09/21/2017 7:25:18 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Fai Mao

I think deep within the mind of an anti-gun liberal, there lies this hope that if the “voluntary” program “works” so well, why don’t we make it “mandatory”?


7 posted on 09/21/2017 7:26:33 AM PDT by PROCON (#MAGA)
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To: Fai Mao

Isn’t it already legal to not own a weapon?

Why would anybody need a law like this?


Some people lack self control — and they’re smart enough to realize it. So they need to be controlled from without.

As long as this proposed law is really as benign as it sounds, and is purely voluntary and revocable, I don’t really have a problem with it. As the article said, it would be similar to the self-bans on gambling that some states have.


8 posted on 09/21/2017 7:27:55 AM PDT by bus man (Loose Lips Sink Ships)
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To: PROCON

I’ve banned myself from dating. Well, that isn’t entirely true, I just stopped asking women out, but it is kind of the same thing.


9 posted on 09/21/2017 7:33:53 AM PDT by rey
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To: PROCON

I thought Democrats were for Euthanasia?


10 posted on 09/21/2017 7:40:11 AM PDT by Democrats hate too much
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To: PROCON

A voluntary ban irrevocable in the first year on purchasing an item we already have the legal right not to own as means to stifle our own free will ... this is bat guano crazy.


11 posted on 09/21/2017 7:43:28 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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Because now the dems can’t hire someone to write a bot that automatically registers everyone in the state for the program without their knowledge or consent.


12 posted on 09/21/2017 7:45:06 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: PROCON

While the reasoning for this proposal is ass- backwards wrong and false, there’s just a kernel of intelligence in it, thus: the only pereon or power on earth that has the right to tell you not to own a firearm or not to defend yourself or your family or community — is yourself.


13 posted on 09/21/2017 7:54:40 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: PROCON

Wait a minute. Liberals WANT people to commit suicide! Especially old White people. Oh, this isn’t about suicide. It’s about guns.


14 posted on 09/21/2017 8:55:04 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Constantly doing things in opposition to human nature is insanity.)
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To: PROCON

“would allow people who may be at risk of suicide to ban themselves from being able to buy handguns in Wisconsin.”


This sounds like something from South Park.

Utter nonsense.

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15 posted on 09/21/2017 8:57:53 AM PDT by Mears
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To: PROCON

YES... people really are that stupid.


16 posted on 09/21/2017 9:12:43 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (High quality, Low price, Speedy executionÂ…pick any two)
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To: PROCON

Yep - if one decides to give up his guns during a difficult time, I’d wager it might be next to impossible to get them back.....


17 posted on 09/21/2017 9:15:29 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: PROCON

Maybe it’s like gun buybacks. Give up gun rights and get a free set of Ginsu knives.

“...“I cut his throat to try and get some of the blood out of him,” he later said. ... a knife, the long one with the serrated edge and the Ginsu trademark on the ... First John took off the head, followed by the hands, cutting them just above the wrist...”


18 posted on 09/21/2017 9:37:28 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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“Nearly half of the suicides that occur in Wisconsin annually involve firearms,” Sargent said in a news release, “and this bill can help ensure persons experiencing suicidal ideations or a mental health condition can take proactive steps to keep themselves safe when they’re in crisis.”

Funny how Democrats are all in favor of suicide when it is assisted by a physician but if it involves only the victim and his firearm it becomes a problem.

Makes one wonder about their true motives.

19 posted on 09/21/2017 9:52:58 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: PROCON

Anyone who does not trust himself to be armed is free to remain unarmed. Don’t need a law for that!


20 posted on 09/21/2017 10:05:58 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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