Shotgun coach Nick Penn states much of common shooting wisdom is incorrect. He helps shooters “shoot straight” with both eyes open. Posted on 08/31/2017 6:41:00 AM PDT by w1n1
Shotgun coach Nick Penn states much of common shooting wisdom is incorrect. He helps shooters “shoot straight” with both eyes open.
According to U.K. shooting coach Nick Penn, half of the people who take shotgun shooting lessons are wasting their money. Why? He says it’s because they’re told to shoot with one eye shut. Penn maintains that shooting with both eyes open is essential.
But there’s more to it than that, Penn says. You should go by feel—more than barrel or bead reference—when you pull the trigger.
He says shooting is the only sport in which the proper techniques and form haven’t been thoroughly researched.
"With shooting, no one has ever come out with a proper explanation as to how it works," he declares. "And this is how it works."
Throughout the video, other shooters reiterate Penn’s take on effective shooting, also denouncing commonly taught shooting techniques.
"I don't have a barrel on my gun anymore," laughs shooter Andrew Blackwell. "You don’t look at the barrel, you don’t look at the bead, you don’t look at the lead…you look at the bird." See the full shooting with both eyes open video here.
Maybe that works for shotguns. If I’m going to use iron sights on a handgun or rifle, it’s one eye shut or don’t use them.
The *only* sighting systems I can use effectively both eyes open are telescopic sights and red dot sights. I should mention that telescopic sights I can shoot both eyes open only if from a bench with time to concentrate. For speed / action shooting, red dot or I’m shooting one eye closed or partially closed.
I’ll stick with one eye.
Shooting a moving target is like pointing finger at an object. You don’t look at your finger, why do you look at the bead?
Actually, the preface is nothing more than a advertisement narrative. The proper technic has been known for ages. The thing is that it’s difficult to master.
Heard good and bad about both . . . I have a 22 lr pistol, and use both ways; Don’t really see a difference
“”With shooting, no one has ever come out with a proper explanation as to how it works,” he declares. “And this is how it works.””
He couldn’t even hit THAT mark. Sheesh.
Problem is that no one really explains either technique properly. So people just wind up screwing up both of them.
Like looking at the hole when putting.
Both eyes open with scope. One eye on open sights.
Shoot with both eyes open with a shotgun? Well, ain’t that news... The shotgun is the original “point and click”.
A big part of it is the familiarity with the weapon.
I have an inexpensive 12 Gauge pump that I have had for 50 years. I learned to shoot on a 410 at 14 and shortly thereafter switched to this pump.
While using it for ducks, I hadn’t shot upland game birds on foot for many years when I had that opportunity a few years back. I out shot many fellows that are better shots than I am in a technical sense. But with that 12 Gauge, it is an extension of my arm, my years, my vision, my desire, and the birds fall out of the air. I don’t have to think, I just shoot.
You shoot at still targets - those with little angular velocity. Clay targets are different.
Right handed shooter, left eye dominant is a common problem. Easier to shoot with left eye closed.
My last couple times at the range I’ve been trying to shoot with both eyes open. Still trying to dial it in.
If I try to shoot both eyes open over irons I lose the front sight rather quickly. I see doubles of the front sight with no way to tell which one is the ‘real’ one.
I have been tested as right eye dominant by my optometrist. I asked him about both eyes open shooting over iron sights. He’s not huge into shooting sports but he does shoot some, and he pretty much told me it’s not going to happen. The physics of binocular vision don’t support the concept of focusing on a front sight post while aligning it with a rear aperture, with both eyes open.
Red dots are different. There’s no alignment of two sights. I shoot those both eyes open easily. I suspect this is one of the reason they have been so heavily adopted; they are everything that’s good about iron sights with none of the downsides.
“Shooting a moving target is like pointing finger at an object.”
This is how everyone tried to teach me to shoot the Ruger LCP. I had a friend who had awe-inspiring accuracy with that little thing. Me ? I could clear leather with it, but that’s where the confidence ended.
After months of trying I just decided to get another gun. Although I have been thinking lately of giving it another go.
Ruger LCP is a handgun, isn’t it? No wonder that the shotgun approach hasn’t worked.
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