Posted on 08/27/2017 7:33:37 PM PDT by davikkm
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAYS WE HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED ANYTHING LIKE HARVEY BEFORE. I have gathered downloads and everything I feel one would need to stay informed about Harvey and EFFECTED AREAS. Our prayers are with everyone in the path of Harvey and the ongoing flooding. God bless all you and all the rescuers out there.
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Uh, every storm is like nothing they’ve ever seen. They are all different. The hubris of these people in thinking that they’ve got everything figured out is amazing.
Im not the one claiming a storm is in some magic way different than any before.
And you have been around since the earth was formed and can definitively state there is something “different” about this one?
It’s a hurricane, it is doing what hurricanes do.
This storm has exceeded Amelia. It’s over 50 inches. And based on the forecast, it could go over 60 inches. So that would be beating the old record by 20%. Still not convinced?
Yeah, so?
It’s a hurricane.
And at some point in the past before written records or measuring, there likely was one that exceeded Amelia as well.
Look up the Heart Mountain landslide.
A landslide that large would be called “Unprecedented!!1!” with massive outcries, but in reality it wouldn’t be.
Again, tell me about the magic something that must exist.
Go back to the title of the thread.
“National Weather Service Says HARVEY Is Unlike Anything They Have Ever Seen”
And we’ve never seen a Hurricane dump 50 inches of rain in the US before. Maybe it happened 200 years ago, but no one alive has seen it.
So clearly they were correct.
My apologies. I was having a respectful disagreement with another person on the thread, and you got caught in the crossfire. My error :)
You don’t know dick you moron.
Again, written records have been keot how long?
There have likely been others that dumped just as much rain before.
And will be again.
It is extremely arrogant to claim something is the worst ever when recorded human knowledge only goes so far.
The record for 24 hour rainfall total is Claudette.
52 inches in 1950 was recorded at Kanalohuluhulu Ranger Station.
And what about those not recorded?
Can you definitively state one way or another on them?
Did you read the frickin conversation I was in from the beginning? Butt out you horse’s ass.
Reunion Island
253.27 inches Hyacinthe 1980 Commerson
217.01 inches Gamede 2007 Commerson
120.47 inches Morakot 2009 Alishan, Chiayi
(Taiwan)
Japan
109.50 inches Fran 1976 Hiso
Yeah, I think that’s quute a bit more rain.
Unprecedented?
Hardly.
We’ve been lucky.
I was having a respectful disagreement with another person...
Perhaps, but not very convincingly. From Wiki (and this is only current to 2007 if I understand it):
Since 1851, a total of 292 North Atlantic hurricanes produced hurricane-force winds in 19 states along the Atlantic coast.
A total of 292 Atlantic tropical cyclones have produced hurricane-force winds in every state along the Atlantic Ocean and Gulf of Mexico, as well as Pennsylvania. Florida was affected by 118 hurricanes, which is more than any other state; Texas ranked second. Hurricane Donna affected a total of eight states—more than any other hurricane.
The 1880s were the most active decade for the United States, with a total of 25 hurricanes affecting the nation. By contrast, the least active decade was the 1970s, with a total of only 12 hurricanes affecting the American coastline. A total of 33 seasons on record passed without an Atlantic hurricane affecting the country—the most recent of which was the 2015 season. Seven Atlantic hurricanes affected the country in the 1886 season, which was the year with the most United States hurricanes.
Records will be broken, but the basic nature of the hurricane has been around for a long time. And the Gulf is notorious for sustaining the storms with its warm waters. You can have your opinion, but rather than argue about whether this one is "special", I'd rather know what your point is. Global warming?
All dumped over a period of 5 days on a city of 5 mIllion people? Go google that and see what you come up with.
You saw the 24 hour record of 42 inches over a populated area, right?
And I’d say Taiwan and Japan are inhabited, yes.
Apparently the new conservative orthodoxy is that if you acknowledge any sort of highly unusual weather occurrence, you’re a global warming advocate.
The cause? Bad luck. Warm gulf waters, combined with two high pressure systems blocking the storm from going anywhere. Thats it.
Here’s my point. This is a bad, bad storm. Catastrophic? Its looking that way. At least if you’re living through it. Unprecedented? Nothing is unprecedented given the span of history. But i’m struggling to think of an example of a storm that hung around a massive metropolitan area for 5+ days, dropping 50+ inches of rain. That is pretty much a perfect storm. And those who are dismissing it as “just another storm” are trying WAY too hard to prove how cool and unaffected by events they are.
I don’t think anyone I have seen here is dismissing this as just another storm. But it is a Hurricane. This is what happens during a hurricane. I’ve experienced a few in my life, particularly in my Navy days.
I think you are confusing people by describing nature as “highly unusual”. Its nature.
PS - I am glad you weren’t going to say global warming.
No, this is generally NOT what happens in a hurricane. In the vast majority of cases they do their thing and move on. Very very few camp out for close to a week after they land.
Nature. Its capricious. They never should have stopped naming hurricanes exclusively after women. There was a reason for doing so.
The 24 hour record is 42 inches.
And your mind is blown by accumulation over five days?
Perfect storm?
Did you see what slammed the population of Reunion Island?
I listed it above...
Nature. Its capricious. They never should have stopped naming hurricanes exclusively after women. There was a reason for doing so.
There’s a tagline in the above somewhere.
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