Posted on 08/03/2017 7:33:06 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
Hoeven 67%. Rounds 71%(Dakotas). Alexander(TN.) 72%.
Murkowski, Capito 60-66%-Red state in drag.
Rubio, Sasse and even Flake do quite well, scoring in the 90's.
Is this the best indicator? I can live with Collins in Maine at 44%. Maybe the others aren't so bad. Dakota ex-governors are unsatisfactory but perhaps acceptable at tax-voting time.
Should we hold our fire when one strays on an issue or 2? Murkowski and Capito shouldn't be Senators but who's going to stand up to them? Perhaps we should best count on retirements(Hatch,Alexander) or even job offers in the executive branch. Save our ammo for the rats and let Trump deal with the Rinos. Thanks.
“Save our ammo for the rats and let Trump deal with the Rinos. Thanks.”
Honestly, we could learn a little from the Rats on this point. Stay together, coordinate fires.
Wonder if my Senator Crapito has finished “re-assessing” her support of President Trump.
Crapito took the Robert Byrd seat after 50 years. She was the one who could win. Ok Been there-done that. Still who will challenge her? Don’t we need the Mancin seat(winnable)? In Alaska Sarah is NOT waiting in the wings. Ornament. Women should take out the women. Kelly Ward’s best chance in late August Would be much better if SOMEONE could take out Corker, Hatch, or Heller in earlier primary dates. Ain’t gonna happen.
ACU ratings do not actually always rate correctly for conservatives.
If Flake is rating in the 90’s, you know they have a problem.
Furthermore, for 2016 they had McCain rated at 88. If you look carefully at the votes they tally, if a member is not present or did not vote, they don’t factor that in.
Several years ago, when McCain was running for President in the primaries, I analysed McCain votes against his rating and found that on many occasions, on hot button issues that were being rated and that McCain would have quite naturally voted against the conservative line, he was not present. Therefore, falsely elevating his score.
Be very careful of putting much emphasize on the ratings the ACU provides!
Not so. She was elected after Rockefeller retired. Manchin took Byrd's seat in a special election. He's up next year. WV Atty. Gen. Patrick Morrisey is set to challenge Manchin. IMO, Morrisey will lose. Manchin comes from a VERY political family here.
Very true. They have all kinds of tricks up their sleeves to mask their true intentions. What I would like more than anything is to know who McStain was covering for with his Obozocare vote, it was definitely prearranged and probably gave cover to more than one weasel.
ACU ratings do not actually always rate correctly for conservatives.
If Flake is rating in the 90’s, you know they have a problem.
The reason why the Congress holds show votes that are going nowhere is for these meaningless ratings. The way to tell what side someone is on is when their vote will make a difference. Those kind of votes don’t come along too often, because when the party wants to lose, it chooses a few people to “take it for the team” and the rest get to pretend to be conservative. Or, if something is going to pass easily, like a gun bill, they will jump on board even though they would vote against it if they could. There are individual clues that we can use for them that may not show up on a rating. A history of statements off the cuff or specific votes on key legislation, or the fact that they are working closely with leadership and have committee assignments or what have you.
If their voting record does not reflect their intentions, can you enlighten me what metric you use to know their intentions?
ACU and CR rates in accordance with adherence to Conservative Orthodoxy.
They give more points for Open Borders and “Free Trade”, and detract for Nationalist positions on those matters.
The GOP bench in WV, despite the party's resurgence is rather weak. AG Patrick Morrissey, an outsider originally from NY, has a shot at beating Uncle Joe, but after that, I see no Republican capable of successfully primarying Capito, who is the daughter of disgraced and deceased former Governor Arch Moore.
David Keene perverted the ACU ratings many years ago. They pick their candidates then comb through the bills that they have voted on and work backwards.
Sarah should run against Murkowski. She ousted Lisa’s daddy.
Flake 90% conservative? You are correct, my question to the ACU is what do you consider a conservative at this point because real conservatives obviously have a different set of beliefs than them and Frosted Flakes.
Bingo!
Both Manchin and Crapito are dynastic politicians. Tough to beat here. I do not see Morrissey beating Manchin in ‘18. I DO see Manchin running for POTUS in 2020
A common pattern is for the GOP’s weak sisters in the Senate to keep their ACU scores high in the two years before re-election, claiming in their speeches and ads that “My American Conservative Union score last year was in the 90s.” Then, after getting re-elected with the help of conservatives, they vote moderate.
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