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Revolutionary Forebears: Sidney & Alinsky Part I
Article V Blog ^ | June 26th 2017 | Rodney Dodsworth

Posted on 06/26/2017 2:36:20 AM PDT by Jacquerie

Two little-known men had enormous influence during America’s runup to revolution.

Algernon Sidney (1623-1683) and Saul Alinsky (1909-1972) were students of history and political science. Both advocated revolution when necessary, but toward opposing ends. In his Discourses Concerning Government, Sidney set out lessons learned since Biblical times in the hope that future generations would recognize and reverse emerging threats to free government. He encouraged men to be skeptical of their magistrates and institutions in order to improve them, to prod them always back toward the first principles of the nation. When the admirer of Sidney saw corruption, his first impulse was to reform the institution.

In Rules for Radicals, Alinsky used his wisdom to provoke societal destruction, and along with it, the free government built upon a civil society. When the Alinsky disciple views corruption, he is overcome with an all-consuming rage which drives him to destroy the institution. Where Sidney helped justify the America Revolution, so too did Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton find encouragement and a “how to” to revolution in Alinsky. He began his community organizing with noble intentions, but like Robespierre, fell victim to the dark side of human nature, doing evil in the name of good.

Sidney. Illustrative of Sidney’s keen insight into the nature of popular government in his Discourses is a short chapter on civil disorders.

No society can avoid occasional disorders, but Sidney believed popular governments were the most capable of peacefully dealing with them. As for their source, “Seditions, wars, and tumults,” wrote Sidney, arise “from either mistakes or malice.”

Only free people can make mistakes. Unfree slaves have no will of their own, can make no decisions, and therefore cannot make mistakes. Once enslaved, they are subject to the malice of their masters.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: alinsky; articlev; revolution; sidney

1 posted on 06/26/2017 2:36:21 AM PDT by Jacquerie
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To: Jacquerie

History just keeps repeating itself.


2 posted on 06/26/2017 2:46:00 AM PDT by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jacquerie; Fred Nerks; Brown Deer; Lazamataz

In Rules for Radicals, Alinsky used his wisdom to provoke societal destruction, and along with it, the free government built upon a civil society.

There is a huge difference between Robspierre and Alinski. Robespierre was motivated for change that would bring Freedom to the individual. Alinsky is a utopian whose ideal society can only be brought about by destruction and the imposition of totalitarian systems of government: what he called “civil society.” Genuine patriotic Americans will have none of it.

This thread article is an attempt to legitimize Alinski. when in fact they are promoting liberal fascism and a diminution of freedom and civil society as we know in within the United States.

No, if you want to know about Alinski read this article:

Barrack Obama: The Quintessential Liberal Fascist

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)

Alinski is no different than those who promoted fascism in Europe and around the world during the 1920s.And when these fascists attained political power in such places as Germany Japan and Italy, we had to shoot them all.

And we can do it again, if necessary.


3 posted on 06/26/2017 3:22:58 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama Fascism (http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Candor7
There is a huge difference between Robspierre and Alinski. Robespierre was motivated for change that would bring Freedom to the individual.

Robespierre's motivation was equality, not freedom.

4 posted on 06/26/2017 3:31:15 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp; Fred Nerks

There is a huge difference between Robspierre and Alinski. Robespierre was motivated for change that would bring Freedom to the individual.( Correct)

Robespierre’s motivation was equality, not freedom.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>( Wrong.)

Nope. You are wrong:Robspierre was motivated by FREEDOM!Without liberty the others could not exist.


The French Revolution began as a sign of hope as intellectuals rushed to see their enlightenment ideas put into action. The Declaration of the Rights of Man, the symbol of the revolution, radically declared rights for all men including that of freedom of speech and the right to vote. However as the Jacobins Club gained control the revolution took a dark turn where the guillotine and blood became the symbol of this radical revolution with Robespierre at its head in what would famously be known as the Reign of Terror.”

Equality of material benefit is a communist idea introduced by Marx et. al. much later. Bread riots do not equate with the reason for energy of a freedom movement. The equality of the French revolution was the equality of commoners to the nobility, not equality of materialism as touted by Alinsky Alinsky would enslave the people rather than free them , his civil society is utopian and draconian. Just look at what Obama had wrought following Alinsky, he almost ruined America and it will take years for us to dig our way out of Alinsky’s “civil society.”

As Patrick Henry said , true today as it was then: “ Give Me Freedom, Or GIVE ME DEATH!”

That will put Alinsky in his coffin, for good.

History cannot be rewritten no matter how hard one tries.

We may have to shoot every Alinsky liberal fascist radical in America, and if we have to, so be it.

Read:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html


5 posted on 06/26/2017 4:33:04 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama Fascism (http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Jacquerie
Sidney and our Framers encouraged future generations to use their God-given reason, and work toward continual improvement.

"— That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

As long as society pursues the truth, it is capable of correcting misperceptions and mistakes. Freedom to pursue the truth doesn’t exist under slavish regimes; it is a characteristic of a free society.

"Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

OUTSTANDING post/essay Jacquerie. Thanks. BUMP!

6 posted on 06/26/2017 4:38:32 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: gattaca

Well, it rhymes, anyway.


7 posted on 06/26/2017 5:32:23 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Candor7

If the liberals and media don’t wake up, we’ll be doing just that in America’s streets. We need to watch carefully and stand for America’s values. The muslims are using our laws to take over and destroy our American Idea. They are very clever with their “OFFEND” statements and some of our politicians are afraid to OFFEND them.


8 posted on 06/26/2017 6:50:39 AM PDT by tillacum (I'm still a Deplorable.)
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To: PGalt

Thank you PG!


9 posted on 06/26/2017 1:55:12 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie; All

History/current events BUMP!


10 posted on 06/26/2017 4:28:42 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: tillacum

They are very clever with their “OFFEND” statements and some of our politicians are afraid to OFFEND them.>>>>>>>>>>>>

Allahwahoo Fukbar every one of them !


11 posted on 06/26/2017 10:13:40 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama Fascism (http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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