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To: pboyington

Yawn. This is lost cause, unnecessary distraction. The south lost, the nation survived, move on. Those promoting this BS (flame me), often have agenda that ignores the reality of it all. Couching it in terms of family heritage, etc., doesn’t hold water. And saying it all has nothing to do with racism and all, doesn’t work either. All signs of the confederacy are moving to the museum. Help that occur with dignity, else it likely is going to just disappear.


13 posted on 04/30/2017 10:52:22 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: Reno89519

My family fought for the Union: 110 IL INF, 183rd OH INF, 15th MO INF and the 2nd IND Cav. It’s not just about the Confederacy. They’re the current target of these left wing wackos. When they’re done with Lee, they’ll move to Reagan. Mark my words.


16 posted on 04/30/2017 11:05:16 PM PDT by pboyington
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To: Reno89519

“...The south lost, the nation survived, move on...”

The South won honor by winning many battles against a numerically superior foe. We honor our heroes.

The “nation survived” but as H.L. Mencken put it, what the nation lost (true statehood) it never got back.

The Confederate flag today is a great symbol against political correctness and needs to be displayed. It is a beautiful flag and I will always display it.


18 posted on 04/30/2017 11:26:16 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a Russian AK-47 and a French bikini.)
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To: Reno89519
Boorishness is nothing new. Dwight Eisenhower wrote a reply to some boor who didn't think he should display portraits Robert E Lee in his office:

Respecting your August 1 inquiry calling attention to my often expressed admiration for General Robert E. Lee, I would say, first, that we need to understand that at the time of the War between the States the issue of secession had remained unresolved for more than 70 years. Men of probity, character, public standing and unquestioned loyalty, both North and South, had disagreed over this issue as a matter of principle from the day our Constitution was adopted.

General Robert E. Lee was, in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted men produced by our Nation. He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional validity of his cause which until 1865 was still an arguable question in America; he was a poised and inspiring leader, true to the high trust reposed in him by millions of his fellow citizens; he was thoughtful yet demanding of his officers and men, forbearing with captured enemies but ingenious, unrelenting and personally courageous in battle, and never disheartened by a reverse or obstacle. Through all his many trials, he remained selfless almost to a fault and unfailing in his faith in God. Taken altogether, he was noble as a leader and as a man, and unsullied as I read the pages of our history.

From deep conviction, I simply say this: a nation of men of Lee’s calibre would be unconquerable in spirit and soul. Indeed, to the degree that present-day American youth will strive to emulate his rare qualities, including his devotion to this land as revealed in his painstaking efforts to help heal the Nation’s wounds once the bitter struggle was over, we, in our own time of danger in a divided world, will be strengthened and our love of freedom sustained.

Such are the reasons that I proudly display the picture of this great American on my office wall.

Sincerely,

Dwight D. Eisenhower

20 posted on 04/30/2017 11:30:32 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: Reno89519

“(flame me)”

You are uncommonly stupid, and you have no idea with whom you are dealing on the left.

You can’t just post and claim anyone who doesn’t wish to bury history or who wishes to honor Confederate figures (who are and were as American as you) is somehow racist.

You fail to appreciate what is happening before your eyes.

You like many idiots who pontificate on the subject think that the South is still somehow not as American as pecan pie and that we should take orders as if we aren’t Americans.


32 posted on 05/01/2017 3:37:45 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Reno89519

” And saying it all has nothing to do with racism and all, doesn’t work either.”

Claiming what you did is nothing but racism by claiming it is racism.


110 posted on 05/02/2017 3:30:50 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Reno89519
Yawn. This is lost cause, unnecessary distraction. The south lost, the nation survived, move on.

The nation survived? The Republic the Founders created didn't survive. It became a very different country as a result of the Civil War. Lincoln blazed the path for the Super State which Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson and then FDR exploited.

The 14th amendment has become the most abused and most anti-American amendment in the constitution. (Because of it's vague wording that can be interpreted to mean anything the courts want.)

Federalism died in that war, and we have been living with the consequences of massive Federal power ever since. (You know, the stuff we conservatives are complaining about now.)

The "Establishment" of which we all bitch about, was created in and by that war. Crony Capitalism began in that war.

No, the Nation didn't survive. A different, more authoritarian and corrupt Nation took it's place.

147 posted on 05/05/2017 7:48:32 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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