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Oregon pushes for wooden skyscrapers to revive timber industry
The Oregonian ^ | April 30, 2017 | Elliot Njus and Molly Harbarger

Posted on 04/30/2017 5:08:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It's rare that a governor shows up to celebrate a new condo tower.

But this one's made of wood, and that's a bigger deal than it seems.

Gov. Kate Brown was on hand the day Carbon12 in North Portland reached its full eight stories and became the nation's tallest wood building. The feat was made possible by cross-laminated timber, wood engineered to have the strength of steel.

The distinction won't last long. Another Portland development, an 11–story high-rise made of the same wood product, is expected to secure a building permit within weeks and start construction this summer.

For Oregon, cross-laminated timber represents a chance to revive the moribund wood products industry, restoring logging and manufacturing jobs in rural communities — where the state's natural resources give it a clear advantage over foreign competitors.

The state is investing hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to promote CLT. Right now, only a handful of buildings in the U.S. have been built with it, and most are in Oregon....

(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...


TOPICS: Agriculture; Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: bonfire; construction; lumber; oregon; timber; wood
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To: BitWielder1

BS. Wood cost just over half to use compared to other materials.

Use concrete? OK, Lets see. Got to mine the sand, screen it, wash it, then mix it with cement that has to be mined, baked and trucked. Then mold the blocks, then cure them, then truck them to the building site, lay them, reinforce them...

Steel? Got to mine it, make pellets out of it, then ship the pellets by train, then by ship, smelt it, roll it, ship it to the supplier, then erect it...

Wood? Log it, ship the logs to a mill, saw it, plane it, ship it to the lumber yards and then to the builder who erects it.

It costs just abt 10 dollars a ton to produce 2.3 thousand bd feet of roundwood for milling. Abt 10 bucks a ton to truck it to the mill. Go ahead and compare that to iron ore pellets from the mine to the mill. Those pellets have to be baked and rolled at the pellet mill also.


61 posted on 04/30/2017 6:41:20 PM PDT by crz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

An 11 story matchstick, what could go wrong?


62 posted on 04/30/2017 6:51:34 PM PDT by WMarshal (President Trump, a president keeping his promises to the American people. It feels like winning.)
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To: FreedomStar3028
Seems like a really stupid idea to build skyscrapers out of wood.

Not so. There's been a lot of wood skyscrapers built in Europe, using modern techniques. Just as safe as metal and concrete skyscrapers, both of which had the same interiors and furnishings as the wood skyscrapers.

63 posted on 04/30/2017 6:51:49 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: hinckley buzzard
What happens when an eleven storey wooden building catches fire?

AFAIK, Steel framed buildings are required to have insulation sprayed onto the steel to prevent softening & warping during a fire.

This insulation is often a mix of clay or Portland cement and wood fibers.

64 posted on 04/30/2017 6:52:07 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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To: hinckley buzzard
What happens when an eleven storey wooden building catches fire?

"Today’s engineered timber develops a protective charring layer that maintains structural integrity and burns very predictably – unlike steel, which warps under the intense heat."

65 posted on 04/30/2017 7:00:03 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bet that will burn real nicely--what a bonfire. Eight stories no less!

No thanks, if I were renting office space, it would not be an 8 story fire trap.

66 posted on 04/30/2017 7:05:07 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Portland's theme song:

Love is a burning thing
And it makes a fiery ring.
Bound by wild desire
I fell into a ring of fire.

I fell into a burning ring of fire,
I went down, down, down and the flames went higher
And it burns, burns, burns,
The ring of fire, the ring of fire.

67 posted on 04/30/2017 7:15:44 PM PDT by Oatka
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To: Windflier

No. I know a good number of framing contractors through my job. None are liberals. Serious engineering goes in to these buildings and safety is priority one.


68 posted on 04/30/2017 7:18:29 PM PDT by cyclotic
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To: hinckley buzzard

I had a carpentry book that showed a building after a fire. A steel beam was melted and wrapped over a charred timber which was holding it up like it was wet noodle.


69 posted on 04/30/2017 7:18:47 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Mean Daddy

glue does melt however. Just ask firefighters about what happens to OSB sheathing. Not sure if these glue laminated beams have the same problem but it’s a very significant question.


70 posted on 04/30/2017 7:23:30 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: UglyinLA

I grew up in a Timber town and my Dad lost everything when the plywood mill closed down. The fake science used to blame logging for the decline of the spotted owl was pushed by the exact same people pushing “climate change”.

The Tillamook and Clatsop forests are at prime logging age right now and would pump hundreds of millions into the devastated coastal communities.

Trump could get it done, if he knows the issue, and shuts out the giant private forest owning timber corporations.


71 posted on 04/30/2017 7:29:15 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: Tailback

Why shut out the private corporations?


72 posted on 04/30/2017 7:43:56 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
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To: goodnesswins

Because corps. like Louisiana Pacific, Georgia Pacific etc... were actually giving money to groups like sierra club that helped fund the protesters blocking logging in national forests in Oregon.

Those corporations have huge private forests and they wanted to kill off competition from pesky private mills that used the timber from public lands. Back then they were doing a double whammy of flooding the market to drive down prices, and lobbying for restricting logging in national forests.

As in everything, follow the money.


73 posted on 04/30/2017 8:16:24 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: ameribbean expat

I think london and Atlanta could weigh in on this as well.


74 posted on 04/30/2017 8:39:44 PM PDT by jimjohn (This battle is over, but the war to rebuild the America has just begun.)
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To: goodnesswins

I’ve never seen lvl’s that were treated


75 posted on 04/30/2017 8:41:27 PM PDT by vigilante2 (Re-elect nobody)
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To: goodnesswins

They’re wood. Treat it however you want, it’s flamible


76 posted on 04/30/2017 8:43:16 PM PDT by Figment
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To: vigilante2

My husband corrects me...the laminating deters bugs...not necessary to treat


77 posted on 04/30/2017 8:48:04 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
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To: Mean Daddy

Safer in a fire? What?

lol.........


78 posted on 04/30/2017 11:23:37 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

Termites.


79 posted on 05/01/2017 6:14:29 AM PDT by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
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To: FreedomStar3028

Building less likely to collapse on you. Steel buildings have lots of flammables, but steel melts and collapses. See other poster’s post.


80 posted on 05/01/2017 6:18:45 PM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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