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A strange prediction for a Marine Le Pen victory in France emerges
Hot Air ^ | March 31, 2017 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 03/31/2017 9:53:35 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Last September, French physicist Serge Galam attracted some attention (and ridicule) when he applied a concept known as “sociophysics” to the American election and predicted that Donald Trump would win, despite what all the polls were saying. Feel free to wade into this quagmire at your own risk, but here’s just a taste of the explanation.

According to a model of opinion dynamics from sociophysics the machinery of Trump’s amazing success obeys well-defined counter-intuitive rules. Therefore, his success was in principle predictable from the start. The model uses local majority rule arguments and obeys a threshold dynamics. The associated tipping points are found to depend on the leading collective beliefs, cognitive biases and prejudices of the social group which undertakes the public debate.

I’m not going to pretend that I know what any of that means, but after the dust settled it turned out that Galam was correct. And now he’s sticking his neck out and making another prediction. Despite the fact that she is, if anything, even more of a divisive figure than Donald Trump, Marine Le Pen is probably in line to win the French presidency. (Daily Mail)

The scientist who predicted Donald Trump’s US election victory has claimed far-right candidate Marine Le Pen could win the French election because of voter abstention.

French physicist Serge Galam has said the National Front leader could benefit from her hard-core following who will ensure they turn out to back her.

By contrast, a substantial number of people who said they would vote for her rival may not actually go to the polls, he claimed.

Leaving sociophysics aside for the moment, Galam is describing a potential scenario which sounds surprisingly similar to what we saw on November 8th in a number of swing states, particularly in Pennsylvania. This theory seems to boil down to the idea that Le Pen’s supporters may not represent an obvious majority in raw numbers, but their enthusiasm is an indicator that virtually each and every one of them will show up on election day. By contrast, the support for her most likely opponent in the runoff election is exceedingly soft and unenthusiastic, leading to the possibility (if not likelihood) that a significant number of them will stay home.

Compare that for a moment to Pennsylvania last November, as I mentioned above. Hillary Clinton was still holding onto a slender, but clear lead outside the margins right up until the final week of the election. But those models relied on her getting out the same voter base which propelled Barack Obama to two consecutive victories in the Keystone State. That support turned out to be so soft that she underperformed in the major urban centers by a significant margin. At the same time, Trump’s voters were so fired up that he overperformed Mitt Romney in the rest of the state by an equally impressive score. It added up to enough of a difference to hand Trump the state comfortably.

Galam seems to be seeing the same phenomenon unfold in France. Le Pen’s most likely opponent in the runoff is Emmanuel Macron, but he’s not really setting the world on fire. His campaign has been dogged by scandals and he fails to excite a lot of voters because he’s widely seen as the “natural heir to President Francois Hollande.” Support for Hollande and his party has essentially collapsed and he’s seen as being “the establishment” at this point. (Is any of this starting to sound familiar?)

Could Galam be right and the national polling will turn out to produce a significant miss? Well… lightning does strike twice everyone once in a while, but we use that term because it’s still pretty unlikely. The polls are probably missing something but Le Pen is counting on an awfully big error. We can’t rule it out, but let’s just say that I’m remaining cautiously skeptical at this point. We’ll probably know more once the first round of voting is over and people are faced with the reality of a binary choice in the runoff.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Politics
KEYWORDS: france; lepen

1 posted on 03/31/2017 9:53:35 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Trump can win, anything is possible.


2 posted on 03/31/2017 9:54:31 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If it wasn’t for her father’s disdain for Jews, Marine Le Pen would La Presidente now.

The French that I know are sick of the invasion of their once happy country.


3 posted on 03/31/2017 9:58:47 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Brexit....Trump...*and* Le Pen? Hundreds of smoked salmon and limo bureaucrats in Brussels would be hurling themselves out of windows!
4 posted on 03/31/2017 9:59:48 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hollande is telling the French people that terrorist attacks are their new normal. His ‘heir apparent’ may have a bit of trouble with that.


5 posted on 03/31/2017 10:01:28 AM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: All

Psychohistory?!!!


6 posted on 03/31/2017 10:03:18 AM PDT by Proud_texan
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To: Proud_texan

Dr. Hari Seldon, please come to the white courtesy phone. Paging Dr. Seldon.


7 posted on 03/31/2017 10:10:08 AM PDT by katana (It still hasn't occurred to them that Trump doesn't give a s***)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hope Le Pen wins, it may be France’s last chance.


8 posted on 03/31/2017 10:10:21 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When is the election?


9 posted on 03/31/2017 10:15:28 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry but she simply has no path to 270.


10 posted on 03/31/2017 10:27:21 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("In a Time of Universal Deceit Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act" - George Orwell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So I consulted a wise old oracle, and oracle says many changes will produce people voting for LePen. But we all know that already.


11 posted on 03/31/2017 10:44:57 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

France—Elect LePen now or have a Napoleon rule in a decade—maybe an Islamic Napoleon!


12 posted on 03/31/2017 11:13:18 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oh no......Putin just shook hands with her. Bet he had a big smirk inside.

Just remember our role in Libya, Egypt, Ukraine, UK.....But we're GOOD infiltrators right Mr. Obama??

13 posted on 03/31/2017 11:41:31 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Proud_texan; katana

“Psychohistory” is exactly what I thought of. Shows how prescient Asimov was. And he was so prescient because he knew his history: he studied “The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” by Gibbon (1776).


14 posted on 03/31/2017 7:13:46 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; I celebrated; I'm good. Let's get on with the civil war now.)
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To: Regulator
The French that I know are sick of the invasion of their once happy country.

Remember these French partisans ?
The French singers are stirring, not to mention the guitarist.

When they poured across the border
I was cautioned to surrender
This I could not do
I took my gun and vanished.

I have changed my name so often
I've lost my wife and children
But I have many friends
And some of them are with me

An old woman gave us shelter
Kept us hidden in the garret
Then the soldiers came
She died without a whisper

There were three of us this morning
I'm the only one this evening
But I must go on
The frontiers are my prison

Oh, the wind, the wind is blowing
Through the graves the wind is blowing
Freedom soon will come
Then we'll come from the shadows

Les Allemands étaient chez moi
Ils me dirent, "résigne toi"
Mais je n'ai pas peur
J'ai repris mon âme

J'ai changé cent fois de nom
J'ai perdu femme et enfants
Mais j'ai tant d'amis
J'ai la France entière

Un vieil homme dans un grenier
Pour la nuit nous a caché
Les Allemands l'ont pris
Il est mort sans surprise

Oh, the wind, the wind is blowing
Through the graves the wind is blowing
Freedom soon will come
Then we'll come from the shadows

15 posted on 04/01/2017 5:53:04 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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