6.5 Creedmoor

Am Shooting Journal ^ | 1/31/2017 | J Hines

[w1n1]

Cartridge manufacturer, Hornady introduced the mission-specific 6.5mm, Creedmoor center-fire rifle cartridge in 2008. Since that time, the cartridge has become a hot commodity in the shooting range and the hunting arena. The cartridge was originally designed for competitive shooting, before hunters took notice. The hunters were drawn to the cartridge because hunting specific loads did not exist and also due to its superbly accurate performance in shooting competitions. The other factor is the affordable rates of rifles in the market.

Historically, the hitherto expensive long range, custom retargeting rifles took a price dive when Rugers released the $1,400 to $1,600 price range Precision Rifles. The price of rifles fell even further with the release of the $1,207, Savage Model 10 BA Stealth rifle. The price and accuracy factors have also seen the number of rifles chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor increase substantially. The 6.5 Creedmoor has a relatively short case with a long O.A.C.L. designed to maximize the usable powder capacity to carry heavier projectile weights. Compared to the previously popular .308 Winchester, 6.5 Creedmoor has a better Ballistic Coefficient (BC) on long range shooting.

The 6.5 Creedmoor also has less recoil and wind deflection, a feature that gives it the power to carry most of its energy to the range. This is also the reason why the cartridge is able to maintain its accuracy past the 1,200 yards. Read the rest of the 6.5 Creedmoor info here.

[JoeProBono]

[JayElBee]

Have one on an AR pattern rifle. Love shooting it. Far more accurate than I am capable of shooting.

[Tilted Irish Kilt]

Ping

Remarkably Accurate Ammo Competitive/ Hunter)

[03A3]

It’s a turnkey solution.

[crabpott]

Just for grins I’d be interested in a comparison between the 6.5x55 Swedish and the 6.5 Creed at a relatively short range of 200-300 yards.
Just curious.

[Mr. K]

why is a 30-06 bigger than a 30-30?

I had a 30-30 and they told me it was OK to 200 yards, but a 30-06 was good for 600 yards.

Thanks freepers for your help.

P.S. check out a Rossi Circuit judge. I think it is awesome because it can fire 410 shotgun AND .45 cal as a rifle.

I like the 410 shotgun for indoor protection because it might not take out a structural beam the was a 12 gauge would.

It is a revolver shotgun. If is the SHTF it can be modified to be almost a pistol (if it were legal to do such a think, if you catch my drift)

I wish I still had mine. But after that tragic boating accident...

[Chainmail]

"why is a 30-06 bigger than a 30-30? I had a 30-30 and they told me it was OK to 200 yards, but a 30-06 was good for 600 yards."

Have you looked at the two? .30-30 is a smaller cartridge designed to function in the late 19th Century lever guns like the 1894 Winchester and the Marlin. The "-30" in the name stood for the 30 grains of black powder equivalent it carried for propellant. It has a relatively "rainbow" trajectory with its blunt 170 grain bullet and 2227 FPS muzzle velocity. Great for close-in stuff, not so great past 200 yards.

The .30-'06 is a whole different animal! The "'06" part comes from the year it was adopted as our standard military caliber, 1906. With a 165 grain spitzer bullet, it has a muzzle velocity of 2800 FPS and it both accurate and lethal out 600 yards and further.

Two different cartridges, two different missions..

[Badboo]

From what I've read, at that difference no difference to speak of. I have a Begara hunting rifle in 6.5 creed. Beautiful wood. Maybe three shots to zero it in. Easily 1/8” moa. I'm replacing my longtime 270 win deer round with it.

For anyone looking for a great whitetail round, I now recommend the 6.5 over all the other usual suspects. The kick is very mild, great for women and younger shooters.

[USMCPOP]

Quick rundown on the various 6.5 mm cartridges: http://www.eabco.com/6.5_mm_cartridges.html

And more: http://www.chuckhawks.com/6-5mm_family.htm

Good article on three of the newer 6.5’s: http://demigodllc.com/articles/6.5-shootout-260-6.5x47-6.5-creedmoor/

[MCF]

The 30-30 name is a left over term from black powder cartridges which listed the caliber first then the amount of powder the cartridge held; 45-70, 44-77, 38-55 etc. However the 30-30, introduced in 1894, was only loaded with smokeless powder of which it used 30 grains of.
The 30-06 was the name of the U.S. cartridge adopted in 1906 which was a modification of the original cartridge adopted it 1903, 30 Caliber model 1906 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.30-06_Springfield).
Some metric cartridges are listed with bullet diameter then case length; 5.56x45mm, 7.62x51mm, 9.3x62mm etc. they may also add the letter r at the end to designate a rimmed cartridge 7x57r, 9.3x74r etc.
In the U.S. the name of a cartridge is just a name and has little to do with physical size. the 300 Savage is totally different then a 300 Winchester Magnum, other bullet diameter.

[Texas Fossil]

“both accurate and lethal out 600 yards and further.”

Yes, Sir. Very hard caliber to improve on. I’m not sure how much “further” bit it is quite a bit.

[MileHi]

The 30-06 was the name of the U.S. cartridge adopted in 1906 which was a modification of the original cartridge adopted it 1903, 30 Caliber model 1906

That's why I refer to mine as the '03 Improved. {:0)

[TXnMA]

The round may be a superlative one — but, the writing in that article is abysmal!

[Ancesthntr]

Any of you guys know the technical AND practical difference between the 6.5 Creemoor and the 6.5 Grendel? I love the Grendel because it can be used in .223/5.56 mm ARs without modification (it is simply a blown-out .223/5.56 mm case, so it uses the same bolt and magazines - you just need a different barrel and, more realistically, a different upper).

Thanks, in advance, for any comments.

[PLMerite]

I swear, I thought it was about an earthquake...

[Disambiguator]

That's why I refer to mine as the '03 Improved. {:0)

I like to use the metric designation just to mess with people. (7.62 x 63mm)

[Disambiguator]

I had a 30-30 and they told me it was OK to 200 yards, but a 30-06 was good for 600 yards.

As others have mentioned, the 30-30 was originally a black powder cartridge. It's other limitation was flat-nosed bullets, due to its being used in tubular magazines. Pointy bullets with great ballistics also make good firing pins,and a chain fire in a tubular magazine is the kind of excitement we can do without.

30-06 rifles with box magazines eliminate this possibility, so the universe of projectiles that can be used expands dramatically.

[sit-rep]

Hey yall remember the deal on the ACOGs I got ya? Well my boy there split from them years back and started his own. Doin pretty good!

http://www.browe-inc.com/

Just n FYI...

[NorthMountain]

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