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1 posted on 12/29/2016 7:10:24 AM PST by COUNTrecount
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Unless Obama has an ironclad agreement from Trump not to prosecute his commissars, a pardon of Hillary does him no real long term good. The quid pro quo with Hillary is that the embarrassing information the Clintons have on Obama stays secret if she is pardoned. However much of that information will be given up by the commissars to save themselves hard time if prosecuted. Also Trump is not happy with Obama and his behavior since the election. Also a large segment of Trump’s base is demanding that Hillary be held accountable. Yet Obama may have something on Trump that explains his recent behavior and reassures Obama that Trump will not prosecute his vulnerable and potentially talkative commissars.Bottom line: Obama pardons Clinton


58 posted on 12/29/2016 7:29:12 AM PST by allendale
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-—Clinton family legal consigliere David Kendall, -—

Consigliere - LOL...they used the right word...


62 posted on 12/29/2016 7:30:33 AM PST by Popman
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The problem with Hillary accepting a pardon is that this once invincible power couple would have the historic “distinction” of one being pardoned and the other being impeached. Not exactly the footnotes to a legacy you want.


63 posted on 12/29/2016 7:30:49 AM PST by Starboard
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My impression is that this is a fake news site(for real).


65 posted on 12/29/2016 7:32:45 AM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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When there is no crime charged, how can you get a pardon?

If there is this blanket pardon in the next three weeks, four weeks from now the AG could find a crime and charge IMO. I think an AG could move toward then. How could there be a double jeopardy?

Also, how corrupt does Obama look pardoning Clinton’s for anything?
ANY crime Obama pardons would represent and acknowledge that Obama and the DNC knew of all along that Hillary was a criminal while running for President.
Is the president going to pardon a criminals known as Hillary and Bill Clinton who ran for Presidenr as Democrats? That will further destroy the Democrat party for what?


67 posted on 12/29/2016 7:35:46 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Pardon for what? I mean, she claims innocence of any crime.


69 posted on 12/29/2016 7:36:39 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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It was mentioned in another thread that the crimes will still need to be investigated, even if Hillary is pardoned. Bottom line she is finished even if she avoids jail time. Being pardoned isn’t a very strong sales feature for ones persona.


76 posted on 12/29/2016 7:39:06 AM PST by cornfedcowboy
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There are scores of others involved in the Clintons’ activities. Unless they are all covered by the pardon, the investigation(s) may continue, and may result in the prosecution of those individuals. Either way, I think Trump should appoint an independent counsel and let nature take its course.


84 posted on 12/29/2016 7:47:09 AM PST by Stingray51
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So is the pardon a secret or is the negotiation a secret?
85 posted on 12/29/2016 7:48:15 AM PST by oldbrowser (Obama begat Trump)
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Problem is if zero grants a pardon for the hildabeast he will have to grant one for himself as well since he was in on a lot of the dirt with hillary including Behghzi and much, much more.

Then there is the problem of other countries granting immunity or not such as Haiti. Will they be so eager to grant the Clinton Crime family pardons after being ripped off for billions?

Perhaps not.

Will all parties get pardons for pedophilia as well?

92 posted on 12/29/2016 7:58:25 AM PST by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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The likelihood of a former First Lady and Presidential Candidate actually being convicted is highly unlikely. Any possible trial would be in either New York or Washington and you would never find a jury without at least one hold-out. On the other hand, a pardon would give a clear implication of guilt and more important, it would strip her of any protection from giving complete testimony in any civil, criminal, or investigative proceeding.

All of her associates, including her lawyers (Mills & Kendal), family (other than possibly her husband) aids (Huma)as well as those who bought influence would be at extreme jeopardy. I would love to see her brought as a state witness in a number of criminal proceedings where she could either tell the truth or face perjury charges. It would be of great benefit to the country to reestablish the principle that following orders of a corrupt leader does not excuse misconduct of others.


94 posted on 12/29/2016 8:02:35 AM PST by etcb
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There is an empty room with a bath and a view at the Gray Bar Inn.


96 posted on 12/29/2016 8:04:17 AM PST by Battle Axe (Repent: for the coming of the Lord is soon.)
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Obama is in “Destruction Mode”. Will he let her be utterly destroyed?
He’s done it to all our allies.


99 posted on 12/29/2016 8:10:34 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Where's Hillary?)
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A pardon would not allow the Clinton Foundation to continue to operate as it did in the past. CF must be investigated and a pardon will not shield it from ongoing crimes such as influence peddling by foreign governments and any charity scams.


100 posted on 12/29/2016 8:12:00 AM PST by grumpygresh (We don't have Democrats and Republicans, we have the Faustian uni-party)
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So, there is no way to ‘seal’ a pardon? Pardons leave paper trails, apparently... Welcome to President Nixon's legacy Hillry... ‘Crooked Hillry’ is her legacy!!!!
105 posted on 12/29/2016 8:19:46 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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Even though she has not been charged yet with any crimes, the Obama pardon would shield Hillary from any criminal charges she could face under a Donald Trump administration and a Sen. Sessions-led Justice Department.

I don't think they can inoculate her against perjury yet to occur.
106 posted on 12/29/2016 8:21:38 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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Criminal investigation of Reid is also on the horizon, and I suspect Podesta will end up in the crosshairs too. Sessions has to indict them all or see Trump undermined.


111 posted on 12/29/2016 8:59:53 AM PST by DaxtonBrown
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Hope the Clintons have a healthy insurance policy. Obama may decide that they’re not worth the trouble and disappear them in a tragic airplane accident.

On second thought, never mind.


112 posted on 12/29/2016 9:04:00 AM PST by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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Let Obama do it!

It will put one final massive blemish on his record and will simulataniously brand Hillary guilty. And a pardon by Obama will clear the way for Trump to pardon General Petraeus and others.


113 posted on 12/29/2016 9:08:00 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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Go ahead. It makes it easier to prosecute you, Obama.


122 posted on 12/29/2016 10:39:41 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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