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Something every state needs to consider right now

Posted on 12/02/2016 12:51:41 PM PST by Secret Agent Man

All states need to examine and modify their election laws to make sure that:

1. They do not,permit candidates to collude and conspire and/or receive money from other election candidates to file recount petitions. Ie acting as a proxy for,other candidates who may or may not remain silent,about their involvement or desire for a recount.

2. Set vote percentage limits on recount requests, that without concrete proof of systematic fraud, and that their vote,count is so small there is no chance of them winning they are denied a recount.

3. Set percentage vote limits thst if they are under a certain percentage of the total vote, they have to pay all costs of the recount and the state can determine what level of recount to do, ie machine or hand or a mix of the two,,depending on the states decision.

4. That all costs are paid up front and if the state costs are underestimated the candidate must pay the remainder as soon as it is known and a bill for,payment is issued.

5. Foreigners cannot give money to recount elections and if found that any money for a candidares recount is given by foreigners or foreign groups and the candidates campaign knows the money is from foreign donors (ie openly takes a donation, works to get a foreign donation, tries to cover,up a foreign donation source, etc) the recall petition is invalidated and the candidate cannot submit another recount petition. And the candidate forfeits their recount money paid to the state.

6. Candidates attempting to use the recount process as a way to delay the election process and disrupt the eldction process will have petitions denied and be fined for frivolous lawsuits and attempting to disrupt/delay a valid election. Such candidates would be candidates that have no hard evidence of fraud, who merely make verbal allegations with nothing substantial to back up their allegations (ie poll and vote result differences are not substantial allegations) and who have no statistical chance of winning the election given how few votes they have received.

7. Establish limits as to how much donors can contribute to candidate recounts, if already not limited. But especially to groups that bundle donations. Also establish that the people of the state actually want the recount and are putting their money behind it, by requiring a minimum of 80% of all recount money for a candidate seeking a recount, come from in-state citizens. This is to reduce the influence of non-state outsiders disrupting a states elections process.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: elections; recount
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This all needs to be put in place in every state of the union. This will become the norm for all the leftist pos cnadidates to do through leftist billionaire funders, otherwise.
1 posted on 12/02/2016 12:51:41 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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“Ever state”? Is you all frum the South?

Alert the mods. They’ll fix that headline right up.


2 posted on 12/02/2016 12:53:37 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Secret Agent Man

you wish not to see hillary lose twice?


3 posted on 12/02/2016 1:02:04 PM PST by mainevet (Get an M1911 or two or three or four... no nine!)
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It’s also helpful for everyone to understand the difference between a “recount” and a “canvassing” process. The canvassing process involves an examination of ballots that had been cast provisionally or were disqualified initially for some reason or another. These usually involve people casting votes in the wrong precinct, or something like that. They were legitimately cast, but were not counted in the initial results. When you see a big jump in the vote totals for a candidate or multiple candidates several days or weeks after Election Day, it’s usually because a whole bunch of these provisional ballots were later approved and added to the original totals. None of this has anything to do with an actual “recount.”


4 posted on 12/02/2016 1:02:14 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Secret Agent Man

Wisconsin got this almost right after their 2011 recount for state supreme court which required a complete re-write of the process. The one thing they missed is your #2, and I heard today it will be considered, that is, only the #2 candidate may request a recount or some very stringent criteria that would preclude a recount unless the vote totals are so close there is a reasonable chance that the result could be reversed.


5 posted on 12/02/2016 1:03:09 PM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: mainevet; All

I wish not to have every single liberal party from this day forward adopt this as a standard practice for every election they don’t win.

I know you why you said this though :)


6 posted on 12/02/2016 1:05:18 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: bigbob

Yeah we almost got it totally right.

Too many on our side do not get how liberals think though.


7 posted on 12/02/2016 1:06:14 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Every state legislature is going to want to consider changes to their election laws to eliminate frivolous recounts to avoid the expense, and damage to society caused by unwarranted challenges to election results.

Unfortunately this may go against efforts by advocates of better election auditing and quality control. But that is what happens when people like the Clintons and Jill Stein try to undermine the will of the people.

8 posted on 12/02/2016 1:06:49 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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It may do the opposite as folks move to ensure such issues dont ever come about requiring them to use the modified recount laws.


9 posted on 12/02/2016 1:09:57 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Good point!


10 posted on 12/02/2016 1:12:14 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Secret Agent Man

My suggestion is to put adults in charge, then all of this childish silliness will not be entertained whatsoever.


11 posted on 12/02/2016 1:15:54 PM PST by infool7 (The ugly Truth is just a big lie.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

i think if were able to stop the millions of illegals voting and illegal votes it would be a non issue but i also like your idea. very good idea.


12 posted on 12/02/2016 1:18:19 PM PST by mainevet (Get an M1911 or two or three or four... no nine!)
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To: infool7

Adults can be dishonest.

Adult and honest are not necessarily synonyms today.


13 posted on 12/02/2016 1:23:46 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: mainevet

Well in places where they let noncitizens vote, it wouldnt. Like California.


14 posted on 12/02/2016 1:27:36 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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True, dishonest is par for the course these days. I should have been more specific.

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” - John Adams


15 posted on 12/02/2016 1:41:14 PM PST by infool7 (The ugly Truth is just a big lie.)
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Candidate requested recounts should NEVER be allowed or the left will abuse the process from now on. only a close election should trigger a recount or actual proof of fraud that calls the election into question and enacted by the state parties.


16 posted on 12/02/2016 1:42:52 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is..." - Milton)
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And they cannot wait three weeks to file. Give them 3 days just like we get for contracts.


17 posted on 12/02/2016 1:58:29 PM PST by Hattie
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Include measures that will “true the vote” and I’m right behind you.

Voter ID, void all existing voter rolls and require in-person re-registration, eliminate Motor Voter and same-day registration, and think hard about repealing early voting.


18 posted on 12/02/2016 2:39:22 PM PST by DNME (This is the tyranny that the Founders warned us about.)
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With Trump as a strong leader and with Republicans controlling 45 of the 50 legislatures ... this should be on his priority list. This is absolute nonsense.


19 posted on 12/02/2016 4:13:21 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I think John Drake would approve.


20 posted on 12/02/2016 4:25:24 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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