Posted on 11/10/2016 4:18:36 AM PST by marktwain
| Muslims enslaved Europeans for over a Millenia. It was stopped in the 1800's by military force |
The late father of Huma Abedin, the devout Muslim who’s co-chairing Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, sympathized with the Barbary pirates in America’s first bout with Muslim terrorism and criticized President Thomas Jefferson for not appeasing them by paying their infidel tax.If you follow the source, the dissertation is there.
In a 1974 dissertation for his PhD at the University of Pennsylvania, Syed Z. Abedin slammed Jefferson, one of America’s most popular founding fathers, for raising a U.S. naval force and invading Tripoli during the Barbary Wars against Islamic pirates attacking U.S. ships in the early 1800s.
SYED ZAINUL ABEDIN, "IN DEFENSE OF FREEDOM: AMERICA'S FIRST FOREIGN WAR. A NEW LOOK AT UNITED STATES - BARBARY RELATIONS, 1776-1816."It is interesting that Huma Abedin's father wrote about the Barbary war as if it were a "colonial" conflict. The Barbary states were far from helpless people exploited by evil western powers. They had been enslaving Europeans for over a millennia. The traffic in European slaves was finally stopped when France conquered Algeria in 1850. Slavery was finally outlawed in Saudi Arabia in 1962, and that was under pressure from the British government.
Sorry, but America actually fights back, and kidnapping and murdering our people was unacceptable.
Wasn’t this a job for the Marine Corps?
.....to the shores of Tripoli.
Trump must stand down the emboldened CAIR.
--- Thomas Jefferson
When the Founding Fathers Faced Islamists
"Back in 1784, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson had to decide whether to appease or stand up to armed Middle Eastern pirates. Sound familiar?
.... The Middle East, a term coined by Alfred Thayer Mahan, one of McCain’s boyhood idols, is where both American warfare and American diplomacy began in the late 18th century, as our infant republic faced its first post-Revolutionary struggle against the evocatively named Barbary States of the Ottoman Empire.
The regencies of Tripoli, Tunis, and Algiers (future homes of Muammar Qaddafi, Yasser Arafat, and the Islamic Salvation Front, respectively) had been hosting and sponsoring Islamic piracy since the Middle Ages. Scimitar-wielding corsairs would regularly interrupt the flow of trade and traffic along the coasts of North Africa, seizing European vessels and taking their crews into bondage. Cervantes wrote his first play, in the 16th century, about the dread corsairs, and by the 18th, the American colonies had a minor seagoing presence in the Mediterranean protected by the redoubtable British Navy. But the Crown was reluctant to war against so petty an antagonist, preferring to pay “tribute” to the Barbary States instead, as a shopkeeper would protection money to the mafia. After the U.S. broke away from England and became its own nation, however, the geopolitical dynamics changed, as did the American equanimity with doing business with pirates.
In 1784, corsairs attacked the Betsy, a 300-ton brig that had sailed from Boston to Tenerife Island, about 100 miles off the North African coast, selling her new-made citizens as chattel on the markets of Morocco. The U.S. was not free of its own moral taint of slavery, of course, but it would be impossible to hasten the industrial development that would eventually render the agrarian-plantation economy obsolete if merchant ships could not be assured of safe conduct near the Turkish Porte. Other vessels, such as the Dauphin and Maria, were also seized, this time by Algiers, and the horrifying experiences of their captive passengers relayed back home were the cause for outrage. James Leander Cathcart described the dungeon in which he was being kept as “perfectly dark…where the slaves sleep four tiers deep…many nearly naked, and few with anything more than an old tattered blanket to cover them in the depth of winter.”
In response, Thomas Jefferson, then the Minister to France, suggested a multilateral approach of what we would now term “deterrence.” He asked that Spain, Portugal, Naples, Denmark, Sweden and France enter into a coalition with America to dissuade the regencies from their criminal assaults on life, liberty and the pursuit of international commerce. As Michael Oren, in his magisterial history Power, Faith, and Fantasy: America in the Middle East: 1776 to Present relates, “By deterring, rather than appeasing, Barbary, the United States would preserve its economy and send an unambiguous message to potentially hostile powers.” Jefferson thought it would impress Europe if America could do what Europe had failed to do for centuries and beat back the persistent thuggery of Islamists. “It will procure us respect,” said the author of the Declaration of Independence. “And respect is a safeguard to interest.”
This sober judgment fused the cold calculations of latter-day “realism” with the morality behind revolutionary interventionism: not only would America protect its citizens from plunder and foreign slaveholding; it would ensure that other countries under “Christendom” were similarly protected.
Though Jefferson found a stalwart Continental ally in a former one, the Marquis de Lafayette, France squelched the idea of a NATO made of buckshot and cannon. While waiting for funds that would never come from Congress for the construction of a 150-gun navy, the sage of Monticello resigned himself to further diplomacy with the enemy. In 1785, he dispatched John Lamb, a Connecticut businessman, to secure the release of hostages in Algiers, held by its dynastic sovereign Hassan Dey. Lamb failed ignominiously.
At the same time, John Adams, then minister to England, agreed to receive the pasha of Tripoli, ‘Abd al-Rahman al-Ajar, in his London quarters to discuss a possible peace deal. Adams described his interlocutor as a man who looked all “pestilence and war,” a suspicion that was soon confirmed by the pasha’s demand of 30,000 guineas for his statelet, plus a 3,000 guinea gratuity for himself. He also did Adams the favor of estimating what it would cost the U.S. to broker a similar deal with Tunis, Morocco and Algiers — the total price for blackmail would be about $1 million, or a tenth the annual budget of the United States.
Adams was incensed. “It would be more proper to write [of his meeting with ‘Abd al-Rahman] for the… New York Theatre,” he thundered. He agreed with Jefferson that a military response was increasingly likely, but Adams doubted his country’s economic ability to sustain it. For the short term, he thought it better to offer “one Gift of two hundred Thousand Pounds” rather than forfeit “a Million annually” in trade revenue, which the pirates were sure to disrupt. Not long thereafter, Jefferson joined him in London to prevent the “universal and horrible War” and reach an accord with the refractory envoy from Tripoli. Both gentlemen of the Enlightenment, and comrades in revolution, affirmed America’s desire for peace, its respect for all nations, and suggested a treaty of lasting friendship with the regency. ‘Abd al-Rahman listened well, but his reply was one that would shock modern ears less than it did those of the two Founding Fathers:
“It was… written in the Koran, that all Nations who should not have acknowledged [the Muslims’] authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon wheoever they could find and to make Slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”
That is because he was one of the pirates.
WAKE UP PEOPLE...... islam is the most evil and deadly cult in the world. ...and is still pressing in on our borders and our culture in it's quest for the destruction of everything Judeo/Christian and our American history and way of life.
PS. If knowing the truth about islam and history offends you...... go away.
TO THE SHORES OF TRIPOLI
We will Fight Our Country’s battles
That moron congressman Keith Ellison (D-MN) was sworn in to office using Thomas Jefferson’s copy of the koran. He actually thought Jefferson was sympathetic to islam. In truth, the reason Jefferson obtained and studied that book was so that he could better know his enemies so as to learn how best to defeat them.
And the phony wedding to Anthony.....please...there are no signs of love anywhere.
And the fact that Bubba married them....how stupid is Huma??
Wasn’t this a job for the Marine Corps?
Yes, and they performed brilliantly.
Then the U.S. diplomats betrayed them.
Sound familiar?
Just Muslims doing what the Koran tells them to do. Where is the problem?
Like more than one incident I know of.
When John Adams was attempting to negotiate the release of enslaved Americans from the Barbary state of Tunis he asked how they could justify "[making] war upon nations who had done them no injury."
the response was nothing less than chilling.
According to their holy book, the koran they explained, "all nations which have not acknowledged their prophet are sinners, whom it is the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave."
They haven't changed but we keep hoping that they might have.
According to their holy book, the koran they explained, “all nations which have not acknowledged their prophet are sinners, whom it is the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave.”
They haven’t changed but we keep hoping that they might have.
It is the left that keeps insisting that their version of reality is correct, in spite of all the evidence to the contary.
How many lefties(all Americans) are aware of the Barbary wars? Looks like Eastwood or Mel Gibson’s next project. Don’t count on Spielberg. Call it “Decatur”
Do you like Kilmeade’s book?
I see Huma bolting from Hillary. Hil was her gravy train and her chance to infiltrate. Hillary no longer serves any purpose to Huma.
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