Posted on 10/24/2016 6:42:20 AM PDT by marktwain
Another grizzly bear attack in Montana. A man was mauled. It sounds like he sprayed the bear with pepper spray while being mauled, but that is a bit unclear.
From kbzk.com:
The Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks reports a man suffered bites to the head, shoulder and wrist after being attacked by a grizzly bear north of Whitefish on Sunday.It is possible that the dogs were part of the trigger for the attack. The cubs, the deer carcass and the dogs all are associated with bear attacks.
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He was able to use pepper spray against the bear during the attack, which caused the bear to flee back toward the direction from where it charged.
Bear spray studies are primarily on non-aggressive bears.
The only firearms efficacy study that is used to compare against bear sprays used cherry picked incidents of aggressive bears. The authors refuse to release their data.
So, I assume they are actually using “bear spray” instead of just generic “pepper spray”. Sometimes the articles don’t make it clear.
the best defence is to stay out of bear country when the boys are fattening up for winter.
“Bad Hombre” bears think of it as seasoning...
Sabor y calidad...
Montana?
Bear, wolf, cat country?
No large cal firearm?
Daughter: Daddy, why are you putting sneakers on?
Father: Sweetie, I don’t have to outrun any bear; just need to outrun you.
A friend of mine carries a Smith and Wesson 500, .50cal pistol when he is in the mountains. He says bears are so fast when they come at you that he will probably only get 2 rounds off before its on him.
It depends. Sometimes the attack is very fast, sometimes it is not. Two shots is often enough.
It is surprising how effective pistols are as a defense against bears.
“Montana?
Bear, wolf, cat country?”
Yes we have ll of these plus deadly moose and bison.
We typically get black bear around our house this time of year if it’s been lean pickin’s due to drought over the summer.
We have bobcat in the draws around us, but we live between the draws and they do not bother us...
It’s quite a lot of fun!
I would say this is a spray success story. My readings on bear attacks is that they are fast, and when hit in vital organs continue with their charge until totally exhausted, then they die. Meaning, yes, you got off two good shots, but will get mauled/killed anyway.
My point is the spray screwed up the bears senses, which drove it off. Yup, the guy got mauled, but he is alive to tell his story.
Personally, a heavy caliber pistol and spray would be a good combo.
Up front: my apologies for snipping this from ancient sources, but it’s too good not to use.
“The National Park Rangers are advising hikers in Glacier National Park and other Rocky Mountain parks to be alert for bears and take extra precautions to avoid an encounter.
They advise park visitors to wear little bells on their clothes so they make noise when hiking. The bell noise allows bears to hear them coming from a distance and not be startled by a hiker accidentally sneaking up on them. This might cause a bear to charge.
Visitors should also carry a pepper spray can just in case a bear is encountered. Spraying the pepper into the air will irritate the bear’s sensitive nose and it will run away.
It is also a good idea to keep an eye out for fresh bear scat so you have an idea if bears are in the area. People should be able to recognize the difference between black bear and grizzly bear scat.
Black bear droppings are smaller and often contain berries, leaves, and possibly bits of fur. Grizzly bear droppings tend to contain small bells and smell of pepper.”
I’ll bet you carry a capable firearm when you go outside...
We don’t know enough to determine if he used the spray before and or just during the mauling.
With practice, one should only need 1.5 to 3 seconds to deploy a firearm or spray if holstered if one has it in hand more like 3/4 of a second to deploy and get hits.
With most bear attacks one has more then a few seconds to realize what is going on if paying attention.
The key in any defensive situation is to recognize early that one might have to defend oneself. Thus giving you a change to deploy your defensive arms or get ready to.
I have heard over and over from people who have been attack does not matter by what or whom I didn’t realize or think on could happen to me.
Be alert, practice and prepared.
You mean hunting season... here is the thing, there are no consequences for the bear. We have trained bears to come on the shot. They do not want hunters, but they do want their animal.
Timing is important with bear spray...
You must wait until it is about 10 feet away...
then spray it directly into your eyes so you can’t see it maul you.
This is true, right here.
A black bear snuck up on me in leaves. Their fluffy little feet make no noise.
And I carry a 357mag in the woods.
Survival:
First, draw your FIREARM.
Then, if there’s still time, deploy bear spray.
I carry a Magnum Research in .500 S&W Magnum. I prefer single action. I reload my 440 grain hard cast gas checked bullets to about 1700fps. I have no doubt about its stopping power. A .44 will do the job. Im in Northern Idaho a few miles from MT border.
riverrunner is correct. unholster that hogleg if you even feel a bear is near. You can always put it back.
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