Homemade Canadian Submachine Guns and Silencers

Gun Watch ^ | 18 October, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

As governments attempt to make more guns and gun ownership illegal, they succeed in doing so.  It does not mean that fewer criminals are armed.  Overall crime does not drop when controls are implemented.  One of the reasons is that guns are fairly easy to make, and the materials to make them are virtually impossible for an industrial society to control. An unintended consequence is that submachine guns or machine pistols may be substituted for ordinary pistols.  They are easier to make, because they are a simpler mechanism.

The above machine pistol/ submachine gun, based on the MAC design is
homemade, as is the silencer/suppressor.  Both are illegal for the nearly everyone to possess in Canada.  This machine pistol was taken in a drug raid.  From globalnews.ca:

Officials said the two busts resulted in police seizing large quantities of fentanyl, meth and crack cocaine, along with seven handguns, and tens of thousands of dollars.

“We have taken significant amounts of drugs and firearms off the streets,” RCMP Insp. Robert Thorainson said.

An identical version was seized a year ago in Alberta. 

More illegal silencers were seized in this raid in Alberta in 2015.  The image is a screenshot, not a video.

They seem quite similar to homemade MAC machine pistols and suppressors made in Australia.  The person who made those admitted to making up to a hundred of them.  As some of them went for a reported $15,000 Australian, that would be a cool 1.5 million for a couple of years work.

I suspect the underground market will drive the prices down. As advanced manufacturing techniques such as CNC machining and 3D printers drop in prices, the prices of underground production will also drop.


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[marktwain]

Submachine guns or machine pistols are some of the easier repeating guns to make in home workshops.

[Raycpa]

As preteens, we made rifle in a dad’s workbench.

[OldNewYork]

Interesting. How though did they get from Australia to Canada?

[marktwain]

They did not. People just made the models in Australia and Canada. It is not a very hard model to make.

[Daniel Ramsey]

It would be better off just making the Sweded model work than trying to eradicate guns.

[marktwain]

Maybe you mean Swiss?

[Daniel Ramsey]

Yeah, had a brain fart i suppose.

[marktwain]

I rather like the Swiss model myself. We started close to the Swiss, then strayed away from it.

It is better suited to our current urbanized population.

[MHGinTN]

Suppressors should not be illegal for anyone. Yeah, I know, you can get a federal stamp and be ‘allowed’ to own one if some porn sucking bureaucrat approves you. But that is not freedom! ...

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

A drug dealer with a hog leg. Now I’ve seen everything. What does a hog leg even hold - 2 maybe 3 rounds of .30-30? Maybe 5 rounds or .44 Mag. There are way better guns that hold more rounds of semi-auto fired ammo in a much lighter package than a freaking hog leg lever action.

Strange.

[Bobalu]

Actually all semi-auto handguns should be required to ship with a silencer.... for hearing protection.

My ears ring for hours if I fire a gun without hearing protection.

[editor-surveyor]

Supersonic rounds cannot be silenced.

[Bobalu]

I see what you mean...the tiny sonic boom.

[delete306]

For some reason, I assumed it was going to be from a 3 d printer.

[JudgemAll]

A one time use suppressor for murder is as easy to make as a coke plastic bottle
filled with toilet paper.

Criminals never use official industrial stuff but the throw away type

[JudgemAll]

Is why the 45 rules. The military should
switch to it.

[JudgemAll]

These gangsta types have always the stupidest set ups. Although
concealment is their main priority, I believe. A cop told me he is mostly worried about handguns. Rifles like AR15 aint it

[ExGeeEye]

The Gorbachev Delusion— so named because Gorbachev tried to reduce availability of alcohol in the last days of the USSR— and the people started making their own—

—the idea that what man has invented cannot be reinvented. It’s actually easier with the historical knowledge of an existing working model.

[iontheball]

Suppressors should not be illegal for anyone. Yeah, I know, you can get a federal stamp and be ‘allowed’ to own one if some porn sucking bureaucrat approves you. But that is not freedom! ...
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My son has been waiting for bureaucrat dictators to act for most of a year now. I think they are dragging their feet until more restrictive regulatory changes take effect, which will be the excuse to deny the application. It costs a lot of money in taxes and application fees to pay the salaries for these worthless leaches in our society.

[Celtic Conservative]

Don’t forget the old standby, the oil filter suppressor.

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