Posted on 10/04/2016 5:21:52 AM PDT by w1n1
This video shows Todd Orr a former Trails Engineer at Gallatin National Forest records himself talking about the aftermath of a bear attack that he encounter while on a hike. He stated, "he had pepper spray with him and did use it to defend himself but wasn't much help”, but it was better than nothing.
Here's the excerpt from the video:
Yeah, life sucks in Bear Country. Just had a Grisley with two cubs come at me from about 80 yards and, uh, I sprayed the shit out of her with bear spray, and then I went on my face and protected the back of my neck. She got my head good, I don't know what's under my hat; my ear, my arm -ugh, pieces of stuff hangin’ out, I dunno what's going on in there- and then my shoulder's ripped up, I think my arm's broke, but my legs are good, internal organs are good, eyes are good, I just walked out three miles, now I gotta go to the hospital. So. Be safe out there. Bear spray doesn’t always work, but it’s better than nothin'! See the video here.
Why no rifle?
“Trails Engineer?” Talk about an inflated job title!
I’ve heard a good 10mm load can bring ‘em down.
Now that is a big paw. Imagine, Lewis and Clark wrote about Plains Grizzlies that we’re even bigger than the largest Grizzlies of today.
I assume because this happened well wway from human habitation that this bear will get a pass from the Rangers.
We plan on camping in that forest next spring, and we are well aware it is in grizzly country, with camp grounds requiring hard shell campers.
The heaviest self defense weapons we’ll take will be a .357 S&W revolver, the idea is not to rile them up, just keep your distance. I understand they will likely charge and attack a the person that fatally wounds them. I’ve read where they can live a minute or two with their heart destroyed.
aka pick and shovel man.
So, a 9mm hollow point should work, too.
Probably an on-duty, non-LEO, Forest Service employee. Only the Law Enforcement variant can carry while at work, the rest of them are S.O.L.
I’ve heard the 10mm is special for this sort of thing. It was in a thread here about a guy taking down a bear with a 10mm and why even a .45 could find it challenging. I learned quite a bit from the thread and the research that it stimulated.
Looks like the 10mm is THE load for protection from large game.
I assume because this happened well wway from human habitation that this bear will get a pass from the Rangers.
It should, it’s a Mama Bear, Mama Grizzly it sounds like.
I heard about this story, it was all over the news a few days ago.
.44 mag or a 10mm with solid hard casts would be minimum protection in brown bear country.
12 gauge with slugs and buck, AK or SKS if you could. Otherwise .30 cal or bigger n a hunting rifle.
It was a lucky shot through the eye. The first shot to the body had no effect.
44 mag for black bear.
454 casull for brown bears.
Don’t put too much faith in the 10mm. It was only one incident that ended well.
Damn. Instant omniectomy there.
Mamma bear was showing the kids how to scare the shit out of humans.
A few years ago there were 5 hunters were killed in a l by grizlys.
I suppose the real answer is to carry a rife in bear country.
Would my bolt action 30.06 be best, or my 20 round SKS 7.6mm?
The one shot thing makes me nervous.
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