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1 posted on 08/17/2016 2:20:44 AM PDT by Jacquerie
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“The America of my time line is a laboratory example of what can happen to democracies, what has eventually happened to all perfect democracies throughout all histories. A perfect democracy, a ‘warm body’ democracy in which every adult may vote and all votes count equally, has no internal feedback for self-correction. It depends solely on the wisdom and self-restraint of citizens… which is opposed by the folly and lack of self-restraint of other citizens. What is supposed to happen in a democracy is that each sovereign citizen will always vote in the public interest for the safety and welfare of all. But what does happen is that he votes his own self-interest as he sees it… which for the majority translates as ‘Bread and Circuses.’

‘Bread and Circuses’ is the cancer of democracy, the fatal disease for which there is no cure. Democracy often works beautifully at first. But once a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader—the barbarians enter Rome.”

― Robert A. Heinlein

2 posted on 08/17/2016 3:28:26 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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They were fine with democracy as long as they could stuff the ballot boxes.


3 posted on 08/17/2016 4:43:00 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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The more of a pure democracy a state becomes the more mob rule it has. Franklin's warning of "A Republic If You Can Keep It" is quite apt for our times.
4 posted on 08/17/2016 4:57:57 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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Supposedly the last time 65% of eligible US voters voted in national elections was back in 1908, less for state and local. It hasn’t broken that since, a lot of them being below 55%. At least by any thing that I have seen.

Nobody really seems to care that millions and millions in campaign money is spent to convince the swayable to vote one way or the other, and we still haven’t broken 65% eligible voter turnout in 108 years. That is pretty amazing to me. But I also tend to think that things might be worse if turnout was higher.

Freegards


5 posted on 08/17/2016 5:07:50 AM PDT by Ransomed
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