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LA: "He was such a good boy" "It was his Own Fault."
Gun Watch ^ | 30 July, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/09/2016 6:33:59 AM PDT by marktwain


America does not really have a "gun violence" problem.  America has a violent urban black culture problem.  If you want to look at the numbers more closely, you can add in a violent illegal immigrant problem.

There is a common theme that has become an Internet cliché when a young black man is shot and killed in the middle of a violent crime.

"He was such a nice boy."

"He was turning his life around."

"He was an aspiring rap star."

"They didn't have to shoot him."

It is refreshing when the mother of a young black man shot in the commission of a crime admits, after the tragic death of her son, that it was his own fault.

That is what happened when Devon Martes was shot and killed by a Jefferson Parish Sheriff deputy last week. You cannot help but feel sympathy for a woman who has lost two of her five sons in violent shooting deaths in the last eight years.  Devon was the youngest of eleven children. 

From nola.com:

"Devon was a really kind person but he just got himself caught up in too much stuff," Martes said of her son. "He really wasn't a bad boy, but he put himself in that situation. He put himself in harm's way."

Of the deputies, she said: "They had to do what they had to do."

Sheriff Newell Normand at a press conference listed Martes' criminal record, which, starting at the age of 10, includes shoplifting, distribution of drugs, trespassing, and attempted armed robbery.

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"He had brand new tennis shoes he never put on. There's no reason for you to do this," she said. "You got a momma and a dad. That's one blessing right there. We work, we come home. We work, we come home and we take care of them. We just took them Sunday to Gulfport, to the Gulf Island Water Park."
New Orleans has one of the highest murder rates in the country. Young male humans are risk takers and adventurers by nature. Evolutionists see it as the legacy of the killer ape. Christians see it as original sin. If you look at places with high violent death rates across the world, they occur in places where the rule of law is not dependable.   It is the default position of the human experience. It is the natural state of affairs.

Alesia Martes speaks of of how she attempted to teach her youngest son from the example of his older brothers violent death.
"Devon took Brandon's death real hard," Martes said. "But he loved them streets. I said, 'Devon, you have to stop being out there. Don't you see what happened to your brother? Didn't this wake y'all up?' But he was hardheaded. They're just hard to deal with, those teenagers."
It takes a lot of work and faith and trust to build a culture to the point where young men trust the rule of law more than their own instincts and weapons.  It is not easy, but it can be done.  Most of America and Western Civilization have done it, over the last 400 years.

It is almost impossible to reduce this violence if crime offers an easy payout not far from the front door. That can only be stopped if a large majority of the community cooperate with the authorities, and reject crime as a valid career choice. That rejection of crime has to be built into the communities DNA.  It has to become a cliche that crime does not pay.

We are being told, daily, that violence in black urban areas is the fault of the police.  Actually, it is a fault that comes from too much distrust of the police.  The urban black crime centers need more police, and more active policing. That can help reduce the violence. But the crime rates will not come down to levels we know are possible until the citizens in those areas realize that the police are part of the solution, and not the problem.  When that happens, fewer police will be necessary.

A false narrative has been created that the police are part of the problem.  It might have been true 50, even 40, perhaps, in spots, as late as 30 years ago. It is more likely that even then, the problem was neglect of proper policing, and corrupt policing, instead of too much policing. It is not true any longer.

It is time for the the black community to reject the easy blame game of the race hustlers who push the police and the "system" as the problem.  Those who reject responsibility for their own communities are pushing for young black men to reject civilization and choose the path of the streets. The black urban culture has to embrace responsibility and the idea that bad choices produce bad ends.

Only then can the black urban culture start the long climb to reach the same level of peaceful existence that most of the rest of America enjoys.  It will not be easy, but it can be done.

Alisia Martes shows that the base of that acceptance of responsibility is out there.  She shows it when she says "he put himself in harms way".  It is a start, but more is required.  When the Internet cliché changes from "he was turning his life around" to "he put himself in harms way", we will know that we are moving in the correct direction. When a gun is seen as means of defense against criminals, and not as a tool of a criminal career, we will be moving in the right direction.

Guns in the hands of peaceful, responsible black people are part of the solution.  When black people see that they are trusted with the same level of responsibility as is the rest of society, it helps build a community of mutual trust. When armed black men and police see each other as allies instead of adversaries, we will have started to win the war.

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The default position for culture is tribalism, where you and yours are the in group, and everyone else is the out group, viewed as expendible resources or enemies.

Science and Christianity say the same thing. One says "Killer Ape evolution", the other "Original sin".

It takes generations of dedication to build up a civil society of trust that extends the "in" group to a nation, but only one generation to bring it down to the default position.

The left has been pushing us toward default since at least the 1960's, maybe since 1900.

1 posted on 08/09/2016 6:34:00 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

“It takes a lot of work and faith and trust to build a culture to the point where young men trust the rule of law more than their own instincts and weapons. It is not easy, but it can be done.”

Not with the current leadership in this Nation and most of the leadership of major cities.


2 posted on 08/09/2016 6:40:27 AM PDT by Portcall24
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< New Orleans has one of the highest murder rates in the country.

Actually just about all cities with a large black urban population have a substantially higher murder rate than those that don't. Los Angeles, Oakland, Dearborn, Flint, Chicago, etc...the list goes on and on...They perpetuate a culture of violence in urban settings. Not so much in suburban settings. The environment seems to be a big factor.

3 posted on 08/09/2016 6:50:06 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: marktwain

The “War on Drugs” has been a joke from the beginning. Read “Divorcing the Dictator”. Noriega compromised congresscriminals visiting on junkets and blackmailed our politicians into protecting Escobar so the coke could flow. Commercial jetliners were packed with dollars and flown out of the US under Panamanian “diplomacy” cover. Wanna guess what the FIRST targets were in “ Just Cause”? The bunker where Noriega kept his home movies of US congresscriminals cavorting with young hookers flown in from flyover country in the US.

Had we been serious about stopping the flow of coke we would have dragged every corrupt politician that made it possible before the bar. We didn’t. Our first priority was to protect the corrupt leaders in thecUS that kept the coke flowing.


4 posted on 08/09/2016 6:50:28 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: marktwain

Wow. Very well done, one of your best.


5 posted on 08/09/2016 6:51:22 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: marktwain
America has a violent urban black culture problem.

And what caused that? I'll tell you what caused that. Back in 1963, the Republicans were frustrated that so many blacks didn't vote because so few of them owned land and paid taxes. Republicans theorized that if they did away with the tax requirement, they would reap a windfall of 10 million new voters for their party. (Because in those days, Blacks voted overwhelmingly Republican.) It was effectively a power grab.

They pushed the 24th amendment, which did away with poll taxes *AND ALL OTHER FORMS OF TAXES* and got it passed through the states.

Lyndon Johnson, Racist Southern Democrat realized what the sort of stunt they were trying to pull, and immediately proposed his "Great Society" Programs, which were asserted to be a "War on Poverty", but were really in effect, a MASSIVE VOTE BUYING SCHEME.

His scheme was very successful at flipping all of those newly created black voters from Republican to Democrat. In about 10 years, they had all switched to voting straight Democrat.

But the horrible disaster lurking at the center of his vote buying scheme is the payment of bribe money to this new constituency in the form of government aid and handouts.

Young women immediately realized that if they got pregnant, the government would give them money and housing. They didn't have to have a husband to take care of them, Daddy Government would take care of them.

This created *MILLIONS* of fatherless young men who had no strong male figure steering them in the direction they needed to go. They grew up Feral. They turned violent and criminal. This is what broken families create. They create feral children.

If you will notice, the incarceration rate spiked about 14 years later. (from 1964, when all this started) That is about the time all these young fatherless boys grew up enough to becoming juvenile delinquents.

The violent criminal black underclass was almost wholly created by Lyndon Johnsons' vote buying scheme. To date, we've spent 21 trillion dollars on the "War on Poverty", and it is now worse than ever.

*THAT* is why we have a "violent urban black culture problem"

6 posted on 08/09/2016 7:05:50 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: marktwain

Really well done.


7 posted on 08/09/2016 7:06:30 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: marktwain

My question is, “If he was such a nice boy, why did he need to turn his life around.”


8 posted on 08/09/2016 7:25:32 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: marktwain

My question is, “If he was such a nice boy, why did he need to turn his life around.”


9 posted on 08/09/2016 7:25:33 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: marktwain

My question is, “If he was such a nice boy, why did he need to turn his life around.”


10 posted on 08/09/2016 7:25:33 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: marktwain

My question is, “If he was such a nice boy, why did he need to turn his life around.”


11 posted on 08/09/2016 7:25:35 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: D Rider

Sorry... the dreaded triple post...


12 posted on 08/09/2016 7:26:56 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: D Rider

A quadruple post is a rare animal indeed, FRiend.

Be proud.


13 posted on 08/09/2016 7:31:06 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: D Rider
You don't understand, when "He was a good boy", is used to describe him, what they are actually saying is that he brought home half the money he got from robbing, dealing dope, and selling items that he stole and give it to his mother.

The term, "A good boy" you [us] as it does to them.

14 posted on 08/09/2016 7:32:03 AM PDT by sport
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To: marktwain

black urban culture = BUC

BUC kills.


15 posted on 08/09/2016 7:43:14 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill TWITTER !! Kill FACEBOOK !! Free MILO !!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Even the “progressives” are admitting the error of that policy now. BTW, the crime rate has been dropping with high incarceration levels and welfare reform.


16 posted on 08/09/2016 7:44:30 AM PDT by marktwain
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Even the “progressives” are admitting the error of that policy now. BTW, the crime rate has been dropping with high incarceration levels and welfare reform.

"Oooooppps! My Bad."?

Not enough. They have created great misery and great bloodshed, and everyone involved in this mess needs to be punished for it.

We now have millions of worthless people who should have never been born, and would never have been born in a natural progression of time. The government has artificially created millions of criminal minded individuals and put us in the position of having no means to correct the problem short of bloodshed.

Liberals forfeiting all their assets and property would just be the beginning of reparations for the damage they caused. The Kennedy family especially needs to lose everything they have.

17 posted on 08/09/2016 8:10:17 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: marktwain

Wouldn’t it be nice if whenever we messed up our life we could simply press ‘Ctrl Alt Delete’ and start all over? AMEN, AMEN !!

Why is it that our children can’t read a Bible in school, but they can in prison?


18 posted on 08/09/2016 8:13:35 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.")
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Raleigh man faces murder charges after fatal shooting

North Carolinas version of the Trayvon mess. Looks like a group of yutes were cutting up the neighborhood in the wee hours of the morning (a local residence their base of operations?). Homeowner came out to confront them and they apparently threatened him by flashing guns and swearing at him. He opened fire, killing one of them (said it was a warning shot). Now he faces a murder charge...

Lots going on with this one that we don't know yet, but the liberal local press is in full call, happy to have this in their back yard rather than reporting on FL or other white-on-black-on-white clashes...

19 posted on 08/09/2016 8:25:21 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase
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To: sport

Thank you for the explanation. Somebody should be sued for ‘ for taking away the family’s major breadwinner. /s


20 posted on 08/09/2016 8:29:34 AM PDT by D Rider
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