Posted on 06/27/2016 10:47:22 AM PDT by Talisker
Edited on 06/27/2016 11:20:01 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
I was verbally assaulted - and “assaulted” is, I think, the proper word here - by a middle-aged female Hillary supporter yesterday. It was quite a remarkable experience, like witnessing someone having a psychotic break, complete with rolling eyes, waving hands, rapid wall-talking, fantastical discussion positions and plenty of snarling personal insults - all while I barely said a word except to indicate, initially, that I was a Trump supporter.
I thought about it for a long time afterwards, because she was truly bat**** crazy, yet gave no indication of it until she suddenly shifted the discussion to politics.
And I’ve come to believe that what I was seeing in her behavior is best described by the word “panic.” She was literally acting out panic. Whatever she is a part of, that is linked to supporting Hillary, KNOWS the Bitch is going down. And so, the general feeling amongst her secret sorority is the level of alarm that hits when people realize that their entire building is on fire. She wasn’t just “supporting” Hillary - she was demanding, beseeching, pleading, raging and commanding I support Hillary, flying from talking point to talking point so fast I had no time for comment, nor did she care if I did. And all the while, she repeatedly claimed to "hate" Hillary.
Something very, very weird is going on. I saw it with my own eyes today. The rank and file are starting to panic. I would say that she actually wasn’t all that far from becoming violent - and at the same time, she would have been hardly aware of being so. This was not a normally demonstrative woman, yet she hadn’t a clue as to how completely out of control she had become - nor any idea that I was literally backing up as she ranted.
I predict ever increasing meltdowns as the months go by. I don’t advise arguing - just get away. Eventually, these people WILL become dangerous.
ADDENDUM: I've re-posted the above thread reply as a thread because I've realized I was looking at a trained technique, as well as panic. The woman I was witnessing was, and has been, a longtime Hillary supporter. But she was openly and emphatically stating she "hated" Hillary - but was going to vote for her. She claimed that she "loved Bernie," but now that he lost, Trump is so vile, so despicable, that she is "forced" to vote for Hillary even though she "hates" her, and - get this - anyone who is conflicted over Bernie losing, or Trump as the GOP candidate, SHOULDN'T VOTE AT ALL.
This is pretty extraordinary, not even counting the outrageous rudeness of it. It's an extremely calculated message, created by political and psychological analysists, and then dumped into soundbite traing sessions for common liberal idiots to regurgitate by the millions. Hillary's people know she is loathed, even by Democrats and especially by Berniebots, so first of all, her supporters are told NOT to openly support her. But they also know that millions of republicans don't like Trump. So what they've come up with is basically a reversal of what is actually going on - millions will vote for Trump to stop Hillary, because she will destroy the country and is simply not acceptable for any reason, not even mentioning all the vast crimes she dragging around. So - that's what they accuse Trump of. And they hit all of his strengths - he's not a busness success, but a failed businessman. The wall won't work and can't be financed. Muslims are being enraged by hims and so he's causing terrorism. Everything reversed, and logic and reality be damned. But, at the same time, nothing is ever said about Hillary, NOT by defending her, but rather by claiming to HATE her, and dismiss her.
Pretty slick, eh? They never have to defend Hillary. They just reject her, hate her, but dump tons and tons of slander on Trump, defend none of it (because they are merely listing talking points they've memorized). I was told, for example, that the Great Wall of China "proves" that the Mexican wall could never work. What?! But then motormouth moved on to the next "point," rapidfire. Because what they are trained to do is a braindump - NOT a discussion, and NEVER a defense of Hillary. What they do is work themselves into a yelling froth against Trump, wistfully weep for Bernie, profess hatred for Hillary and then... then... conclude that they have two choices "forced" on them - to not vote at all, or vote "against" Trump by voting for Hillary. Both of which, of course, serving Hillary's purposes, depending on who they are talking to.
And if you indicate you've read up on issues, you will be immediately rejected. Finally, for example, I made a comment to refute one of her talking points with some deeper facts and knowledge, specifically that Trump was NOT, in fact a "racist and misogynist." Rather, I said that he pointed where people claimed their own race as backing for their actions, and he specifically decried cultures which enslave women as property. She immediately stopped, gazed at me and then said, "well, if you're a Fox News Republican, I can't talk to you" - and suddenly walked away!
Now, I'm not a Fox News anything, nor Republican, really, given that the entire party has been outed as RINOs. But that's not the point - her phrase, "Fox News Republican" is what THEY are trained to call anyone who has accessed and considered Non-Democrat-Approved Media. And of course, that means such people can recognize their bullshit AS bullshit, and so the entire screed, acting job and effort is pointless.
So, in such cases, they are taught to dehumanize such people, and they do it in two ways - 1st, LABEL them. It's an Alinsky tactic to create the "other" as against the "group." 2nd - REJECT them, utterly, completely, suddenly and totally. And lest you think I'm being overly dramatic here, this is exactly the first two stages of what communist countries use before they actually destroy human beings - the third stage, of course, being arrest and/or simply being killed. Read up on Soviet Russia and China - this is no exaggeration. It's just that it's never been deplayed by the millions here, so Americans aren't used to recognizing what they are seeing. But conservative who comes across one of these members of "Hillary's Army" will have no doubt that that person could, and would, easily send them to a concentration camp if they had the power. No doubt at all - because they WANT you to know it. To them, you're either IN, or OUT, and they want to know, RIGHT NOW, which one you are.
Even without the final stage, though, it's a psychologically brutal tactic, even from someone I found revolting, because it's a sudden and dramatically enacted effect that is derived from the tactic itself. I'm telling you, these people are TRAINED by real bastards - and they are dedicated as any Chekist ever was. In fact, EXACTLY as Chekists were, which is why Eastern Europeans shudder at what they're seeing here.
And that's why I'm writing this - because this is ALL calculated stuff, folks. So don't be fooled by the wild-eyed maniac in front of you - they've sat in training sessions. They've memorized talking points and practiced their deliveries. Yes, her. Yes, him. The mild-mannered neighbor, the casual acquaintance, the workers you know, family members - all of them. THIS is how Hillary's money is being used: mind and behavior control.
With one exception - right now, they are afraid. Something is wrong, and they feel it, and they know it, because their handlers, their trainers, their superiors are SCARED. And so THEY are scared, too - even, as I observed, panicked. Because Hillary was never, ever supposed to face Trump, or anyone like Trump, ever. And while they are all getting as dirty as they can, they are still scared, because they have to fight now - for real. And that wasn't supposed to happen - ever.
So walk away from them. Don't engage. In THEIR minds they are cornered animals and YOU are threatening them just by existing. Yes, that is madness. But that is what they are - insane.
I witnessed a similar near panic, in the eyes of my grade school teachers, when Reagan was elected. They genuinely thought the ‘cowboy’ Reagan was going to get us all killed...and they were very upset.
Reminds me of the Japanese woman who throws her baby off a cliff, during WWII, because she believed American GI’s would eat it.
I can only comment in haikus today. Here is the one spurred by your experience:
Frothing and bleating
Hill supporters have their tag:
Useful Idiots
I so can’t wait to have the DNC hand over their nominee’s name to state secretaries and then challenge it on grounds that Bill Clinton is forbidden from another term in the White House, and their home state treats the marriage unit as one, even extending marital privilege in court.
Wonder if Hillary will file the response or serve Billy with divorce papers first?
Most excellent observation!
Great observations and thanks for even engaging such a demonstrative loon. I’ve had similar online engagements with my cousin’s wifey in Pennsylvania. Both he and she are smart folks, teachers mind you. But they’ve bought into the unionist dogma and the Barack Obama worship and nobody, I say NOBODY is going to criticize BHO and get away with it. They have invested and they know their investment in BHO has meant a negative return on their capital (if they even believe in capital). They’ll defend their negative returns to the death.
Pluck your eye out you sicko. ;)
Yes they are the enemy.
The technique you describe is not new. Look at the commie left through out its history and you will see the same thing...from the French Revolution onward. With the media playing it for all its worth, and the 24 hour news cycle it will only get worse
Our solution is simple....Get out the vote. Get out the vote
[ Something very, very weird is going on. I saw it with my own eyes today. ]
Pretty much like talking to any Obama supporter the first 5-6 years. They truly wanted to believe in their “messiah”.
It’s the spirit of antichrist. Only thing that explains such bizarre behavior.
I’d love for someone to call me a Fox News Republican.
“Nope. I don’t have cable. On occasion I’ll watch a few minutes in the morning if I’m at a hotel. I’ve never watched an entire episode of any of their hosts. I make up my own mind on what I believe based upon reading about an issue from several sources.
So, just where did you get the term Fox News Republican?
Huh?”
I have people like this in my own family.
It is not worth it to engage with them.
Do not talk politics with certain people. They are irrational and completely unhinged.
These certain people view any disagreement with them on practically any subject, not necessarily political, as a personal threat against them, so react like a cornered animal. They think if you disagree with them you hate them and are out to do them personal bodily harm. In fact I simply pity them.
Completely mentally deranged.
Who are the biggest manufacturers of antidepressant and antipsychotic drugs? I think it’s time to do some investing.....
Notice the State Department isn't defending her any more.
But if you encounter a Hillary supporter why they like her failed wars (Libya and Syria) and why they like the Terrorists being imported with the immegrants. Surely they love Terrorists by disarming us and hate gays for the same reason. After all a "Gun Free Zone" is seen by them as a shooting gallery.
So I take it you know this woman?
A haiku based on the tired tactics of the leftist street:
Leftists are surprised
That arguments are not won
By yelling louder
Fools! No one would vote for a neo-Stalinist like Hillary and her crew of sycophants and neo-Communists. They love Marx more than Jefferson,Adams,Franklin, and Washington. I believe the false polls and such are setting the stage for a big steal of the election. Stuff the ballot box and proclaim Hillary President—Obama as Sec. of State. With warren as VP (or some other black face) and we will have another 8 years of Progressive misrule. Only an uprising or military coup will unseat them and their media allies.
Very casually.
I had something similar with my cousins husband 3 or 4 Get Rid of Assault Rifle cycles ago.
He started going off on the evils of “assault” rifles and I tried to counter him with facts.
After a while, I had to walk away because his little liberal mind was incapable of cogent thought.
They live in Chicago and are totally blind to the carnage there because it’s in the low rent area and doesn’t affect them.
He followed with an email further blasting me. I replied with an analysis I did on FBI Crime Statistics.
Crickets followed.
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