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Reporter's Attempt to Show Ease of Buying an Assault Rifle Backfires
NewsBusters ^ | June 22, 2016 | 6:50 PM EDT | Randy Hall

Posted on 06/26/2016 11:14:18 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Neil Steinberg of the Chicago Sun-Times decided last week to purchase an AR-15 following the Pulse night club shooting in Orlando, Florida. His purpose, he said, was to demonstrate how simple it was and to explore Illinois’ gun laws concerning assault weapons.

When he bought the gun, Steinberg planned to sell it back to the store. However, his purchase was stopped by the gun store, which canceled the transaction during Illinois’ required 24-hour waiting period after discovering he had lied on his background check about his history of alcohol abuse and domestic violence.

In his article, Steinberg admitted that while driving to Maxon Shooter’s Supplies in Des Plaines, he was nervous because “I’d never owned a gun before,” and with the horror of the Orlando massacre “still echoing” in his mind, “even the pleasant summer day … took on a grim aspect, the sweetness of fragile life flashing by as I headed into the Valley of Death.” …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: alcoholic; assaultrifles; backgroundchecks; banglist; chicagosuntimes; guncontrol; liberalmedia; neilsteinberg; wifebeater
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To: ConservativeMind

LOL!

One would think, right?


21 posted on 06/26/2016 12:43:13 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey. PubYeslic education is the farm team for more Marxists coming-- infinitum.)
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To: Olog-hai

I think he lied about the reporter question. No reason what so ever to ask that question but it looks good on paper.


22 posted on 06/26/2016 12:49:45 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Trump, or no more republicans)
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To: Steely Tom

This is not Neil Steinberg first time FReeRepublic. When I was in Chicago he lived in Logan Square and was part of the movement to kick poor Hispanics out as the area west of the river gemtrified.

In Logan Square he was good friends with terrorists in the PSP-Puerto Rican Socialist party (Not to be confused with the FALN). Guns are very common in his neighborhood with both the law abiding and the law breakers.


23 posted on 06/26/2016 12:59:10 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; All
The link on the NewsBusters site is broken The article is still up.
24 posted on 06/26/2016 1:20:22 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Fantasywriter

The obvious question, if the report was true, would be how he had a FOID card with a history of domestic violence?


25 posted on 06/26/2016 1:33:17 PM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Fantasywriter
You don’t have to be convicted of alcohol/drug abuse; it merely has to be shown that you are or have been, or at least that is what I got from this pamphlet. So it must show up on his background somehow.

And NewsBusters did not claim Steinberg was convicted of spousal abuse. They cited the Daily Caller, who reported that the store said Steinberg did not contest their reasoning.
26 posted on 06/26/2016 1:34:46 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Alcohol abuse is a disqualifier?


27 posted on 06/26/2016 1:35:35 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome
The ISP pamphlet says being “a controlled substance and/or narcotics user or addict” is a disqualifier. Kinda loose language there. Alcohol is also open to legal interpretation as being a “narcotic” still, IINM.
28 posted on 06/26/2016 1:42:21 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: USNBandit; Olog-hai

I found a prior thread much more informative. From the article that accompanied it:

‘Steinberg did fill out an ATF 4473. he didn’t lie on the form which asks the respondent if they have ever been *convicted* in a court of a domestic violence misdemeanor and, apparently, Steinberg wasn’t convicted (even though you or I would have been convicted). He made a big deal about his arrest and his “come to Jesus” moment in the paper and in his book “Drunkard”. Because he doesn’t have a conviction, he also has a Firearm Owners Identification (FOID) card.’

Here’s the link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3442453/posts


29 posted on 06/26/2016 1:43:41 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
Question 11e on the form is open-ended.
Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?
I tried to find information as to whether Steinberg’s wife’s order of protection was actually terminated, but could not. She did, however, ask for it to be revoked.
30 posted on 06/26/2016 1:49:53 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

My take from the article is that the reporter is on the wagon. As for the rest, I’m not an expert. I did enjoy the angle of the original story, though.

Paraphrasing, ‘You could legally buy the gun, but we don’t like your history of alcohol and wife abuse. Oh,and if that ruins your story, how is that our problem?’


31 posted on 06/26/2016 2:05:52 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Ancesthntr

He will be charged right along with David Gregory.

Laws are only for the little people. Politicians, journalists and celebrities are exwmpt.


32 posted on 06/26/2016 2:17:30 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Olog-hai

Another leftist charged with domestic violence.


33 posted on 06/26/2016 2:31:17 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Olog-hai

Drunken wifebeater lied on a federal form to buy a gun? I believe that’s a federal offense, buddy. I’d call the cops and the ATF on him.


34 posted on 06/26/2016 2:44:19 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ConservativeMind

This was an intentional attempt for a newspaper to get a story where a guy with a known record easily buys a firearm.

That simple. They sent him specifically because of his criminal record.


35 posted on 06/26/2016 2:51:59 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: Olog-hai

There’s a reason the Sun Times does not allow commenting on their articles: it allows them total impunity to publish lies and propaganda without possibility of refutation with pesky facts.


36 posted on 06/26/2016 4:40:04 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Fantasywriter

https://www.atf.gov/file/61446/download

I’d suggest 11.b and h may fill the gaps on the wife beater ..... but , just a guess.


37 posted on 06/26/2016 5:07:40 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I know...but I thought that I would make the point.


38 posted on 06/26/2016 7:34:21 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Olog-hai
Steinberg is the epitome of self-parody, and it's worth knowing a few things about him.

Many years ago, he had a modest success with a humorous take on college pranks called "If at All Possible, Involve a Cow"

He also wrote the 'BobWatch' column for the Chicago Reader (We Read [Chicago Tribune columnist] Bob Greene So You Don't Have To). Steinberg penned the definitive takedown of the insufferable Greene for Salon Magazine when Greene's indiscretions finally caught up with him; it must be some sort of schadenfreude for Greene to see Steinberg laid low, because Steinberg was merciless to Greene.

39 posted on 06/26/2016 8:45:03 PM PDT by IncPen (Hey Media: Bias = Layoffs)
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To: Fantasywriter
Is FOID card an Illinois thing?
40 posted on 06/27/2016 5:08:14 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight,)
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