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Joe Bruno on Boxing – Muhammad Ali is Not a Hero.
Joe Bruno On Boxing ^ | June 4, 2016 | Joe Bruno

Posted on 06/04/2016 8:42:53 AM PDT by KeyLargo

Joe Bruno on Boxing – Muhammad Ali is Not a Hero.

Muhammad Ali passed away Friday night, June 3, 2016. I wrote the article below around the year 2000.

I got to know him fairly well in the 1980’s, when I was Vice President of the Boxing Writers Association. He was a real friendly man, and we had several nice conversations about what I have written below.

Still, his death doesn’t change what he was, and what he did early in his career.

It is with a sad heart that I stand by what is written below.

It’s just the truth, and a man’s death doesn’t change the truth.

Muhammad Ali Hero?—Not!!!!!!! There’s a new phenomenon taking place in boxing, and in the news media in general, which I’ll gracefully call revisionist history. I’m talking about the way the so-called media portrays one of the most controversial figures of all time – Muhammad Ali.

Former heavyweight champion Muhammad Ali may have been great fighter, but he was also a shameless draft dodger, who refused to fight for his country in the Vietnam War.

If you say the United States didn’t belong in Vietnam–I agree. If you say it was a stupid war, a war we couldn’t win — I also agree. I didn’t like the war any more than Ali did, but me and hundreds of thousands of other men like me, black, white, or whatever, went into the United States armed service because it was our duty to our country and to our families.

Ali’s refusal to be inducted wasn’t a black/white thing like he and his people tried to shove down our throats. Hundreds of thousand of white men chickened out and avoided service in Vietnam too.

Ali claimed to be a Muslim minister as his exemption

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To: Hot Tabasco

Yeah, well, sometimes you have to get over it when somebody calls you a name or does something you don’t like. It is called ignoring the inconsequential and living your life as an ambitious adult.


141 posted on 06/05/2016 4:11:38 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarme)
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To: BobL

but I do think there comes a point where a person is high enough profile to be exempt from compulsory service.””

Some would say beating people senseless for big bucks is not furthering the cause of civilization. Most people think they should be high profile too. It isn’t like this moron was some kind of top scientific mind. The world would not have missed him.


142 posted on 06/05/2016 4:17:07 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarme)
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To: bigdaddy45

Here is a tip. Deferments are not equivalent to being a convicted draft dodger.


143 posted on 06/05/2016 4:19:28 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarme)
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To: bigdaddy45

So the Quakers and the Amish? Do we shoot them too?”

NO, because the Quakers and Amish are honest. Clay was a cheap con-artist.


144 posted on 06/05/2016 4:21:33 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarme)
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To: Neoliberalnot

explain the difference. The practical difference.

Ali never applied for a deferment to my knowledge. He just said “I ain’t going”. Trump said “I ain’t going” through 7 successful deferments. Seven.

One was very clear in his conviction, and one pulled every string he could muster.


145 posted on 06/05/2016 4:22:55 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45

I think you are blinded by Muslim Ali’s bling and his physical star power. Being a media star tends to blind many people to their faults, foibles, and crimes.


146 posted on 06/05/2016 4:29:00 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarme)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Not at all. He did some good things, and he did some rotten things. He treated Joe Frazier horribly.

Of course, you could make the same argument about how many on Freerepublic now view Donald Tump. they are blind to his “faults, foibles and crimes”, no?


147 posted on 06/05/2016 5:07:32 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Neoliberalnot

Please. Nugent bragged about it, Cheney said he had “other priorities”, Limbaugh had a sore butthole, and Donald claimed that going to high school gave him more military training than people actually in the military while dragging down a bunch of deferments. They’re all a bunch of draft Dodgers, and assuming you have access to the internets, you can do your own f-ing research


148 posted on 06/05/2016 6:08:52 PM PDT by stormer
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To: Neoliberalnot

Please. Nugent bragged about it, Cheney said he had “other priorities”, Limbaugh had a sore butthole, and Donald claimed that going to high school gave him more military training than people actually in the military while dragging down a bunch of deferments. They’re all a bunch of draft Dodgers, and assuming you have access to the internets, you can do your own f-ing research


149 posted on 06/05/2016 6:08:53 PM PDT by stormer
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To: Neoliberalnot

Muslim World Hails Muhammad Ali as ‘Symbol for Muslims’
Jun. 5, 2016 8:51am Carly Hoilman

Story by the Associated Press; curated by Carly Hoilman.

CAIRO (AP) — Of all Muhammad Ali’s travels in the Muslim world, his 1964 trip to Egypt was perhaps the most symbolic, a visit remembered mostly by an iconic photo of the boxing great happily shaking hands with a smiling Gamal Abdel-Nasser, Egypt’s nationalist and popular president.

It was a mutually beneficial meeting: Nasser was viewed with suspicion and mistrust by the United States, but was revered across much of Africa and Asia for his support of movements fighting European colonial powers. For Ali, the new heavyweight boxing champion, being received by one of “imperialist” America’s chief enemies announced his arrival on the global stage as a powerful voice of change.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/06/05/muslim-world-hails-muhammad-ali-as-symbol-for-muslims/


150 posted on 06/06/2016 4:58:23 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: stormer

One small problem, deferments are not draft dodges in the sense they are completely legitimate. What the muslim did was clearly a blatant violation of the law of the land. Being a black muslim gives him no right to ignore said law. See the difference?


151 posted on 06/06/2016 2:12:07 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarme)
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To: bigdaddy45

I was wondering what other muslims you support?


152 posted on 06/06/2016 2:15:29 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarme)
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To: Neoliberalnot

This guy. Seemed like a good guy. Or was he not to be trusted either?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kareem_Rashad_Sultan_Khan


153 posted on 06/06/2016 3:45:32 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Neoliberalnot

Wow, really got your head up your rectal cavity on this, don’t you? At least Ali had the guts to take the consequences that came with not going. Which is more than can be said for the folks on this list.


154 posted on 06/06/2016 3:47:24 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45

Yeah, he was a good muslim. sarc. The ones who took down the world trade center had guts too, didn’t they? Mo Ali was also a good friend of Louie Farrakhan, another gutsy muslim.


155 posted on 06/06/2016 3:57:22 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarme)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Sarc? So the guy who volunteered to fight and went to the Middle East and died is met with sarcasm? More guts than you have i must say.


156 posted on 06/06/2016 5:30:37 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45

Your Ft. Hood hero, is that who you refer to?


157 posted on 06/07/2016 4:13:37 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarme)
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