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Three Reforms to Bring Down Michigan Health Care Costs
Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 5/20/2016 | Jarrett Skorup

Posted on 05/24/2016 9:44:57 AM PDT by MichCapCon

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1 posted on 05/24/2016 9:44:57 AM PDT by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon

One more- get government out of medicine and health care.


2 posted on 05/24/2016 9:46:27 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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To: MichCapCon

All health care providers must post their costs
Allow competition and a market based system
Get government completely out of the health care business
Tort reform


3 posted on 05/24/2016 9:48:48 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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"Three Reforms to Bring Down Michigan Health Care Costs"

Must we enact these reforms to find out what's in them?

Dejavous all over again...........

4 posted on 05/24/2016 9:49:47 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: MichCapCon

The government-corporate-insurance triad is the root cause of of the wreck of the healthcare industry that has been foisted upon us today. Those three agents are solely responsible. The only people who would take exception to that are those who are a part of it.


5 posted on 05/24/2016 9:57:53 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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reforms? More legislation is not the answer. GOVERNMENT, GET OUT OF OUR DAMN WAY!


6 posted on 05/24/2016 10:04:06 AM PDT by uncitizen (Europe is gone.)
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To: MichCapCon

Allow Michigan Upper peninsula residents to utilize medical doctors in Wisconsin. Here in the UP the medical facilities are basically being bought up by out of state medical providers. Marquette medical Clinics are now part of Duke Lifepoint out of North Carolina. Basically the UP of Michigan has medical care regions. Aspirus of Wausau is taking over the Western UP - Iron, Gogebic and Ontanogon Counties. Duke Lifepoint is taking over the Calumet,Baraga, Houghton, Marquette, Alger, Luce and Keweenaw Counties and is operating satellite clinics in Iron and Dickinson Counties. Dickinson County medical services are joining Bellin Hospital Green Bay wis. Delta and Schoolcraft Counties are jointly owned by a Catholic Order of Sisters. Menominee County all medical services are in Marinette Wis and are operated by Aurora healthcare out of Green Bay/Milwaukee. Mackinac and Chippewa counties jointly by the Chippewa memorial hospital (Sault sainte marie) and Mackinac straits (st. Ignace) Hospital with the Objiwa nation of Indians in partnership. the oddity is that medical services for referrals are being sought after in Wisconsin because Grand rapids,Ann Arbor and Detroit Metro facilities are anywhere from 4 - 13 hours drive away from points throughout the UP of Michigan. Medical care services are becoming regional and across state lines


7 posted on 05/24/2016 10:14:19 AM PDT by hondact200 (politicians and diapers are similiar. They both have to be changed often for the very same reason)
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Certificate of need laws need to be tossed in the trash.

Nurse practitioners should be able to go independent after two years of practice.


8 posted on 05/24/2016 10:19:57 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: hondact200; 50mm; humblegunner; Semper Mark; Darksheare
You are a liar and Stolen Valor Scum.
9 posted on 05/24/2016 10:21:40 AM PDT by shibumi (Vampire Outlaw of the Milky Way)
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To: hondact200

Any operation larger than 200 beds needs to have fee caps of 120% of Medicare allowed charges.


10 posted on 05/24/2016 10:22:21 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: 2banana
1. All health care providers must post their costs
2. Allow competition and a market based system
3. Get government completely out of the health care business
How do you mandate/enforce #1 and implement #3 at the same time?
11 posted on 05/24/2016 12:11:17 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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Any operation larger than 200 beds needs to have fee caps of 120% of Medicare allowed charges.

price ceilings never help the people they claim to be trying to help and always lead to rationing.

12 posted on 05/24/2016 12:13:46 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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The three reforms described in the article are all examples of reducing or eliminating governmental red tape and restrictions. There was a time when repealing restrictive regulations and expanding freedom of market choices was considered a good thing around here.


13 posted on 05/24/2016 12:29:47 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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reforms? More legislation is not the answer. GOVERNMENT, GET OUT OF OUR DAMN WAY!

Each of the three proposals described in the article is an example of eliminating existing government restrictions in the medical market place. How do you consider any of the proposals to constitute more legislation? Repealing unnecessary and harmful regulations is a perfect example of government getting out of the way. What do you find objectionable about the proposals described in the article?

14 posted on 05/24/2016 12:33:15 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember

Enforcement of fraud and GAAP laws does not equal government involvement in health care.


15 posted on 05/24/2016 12:47:19 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: VRWCmember

They can either meet the price or break apart.

By the way, I live in Florida and the price of electricity is regulated. Price regulation can work.


16 posted on 05/24/2016 1:24:40 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Enforcement of fraud and GAAP laws does not equal government involvement in health care.

No, but forcefully requiring providers to post a price list of the services and setting up the bureaucracy to monitor the postings does.

17 posted on 05/24/2016 1:26:06 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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No, but forcefully requiring providers to post a price list of the services and setting up the bureaucracy to monitor the postings does.

Like every other business in America? Are you really that thick?

Now go Google the Sherman, Clayton and Robinson-Patman Acts and ask why are medical health providers and medical insurance provided not prosecuted.

18 posted on 05/24/2016 1:31:35 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Brian Griffin
By the way, I live in Florida and the price of electricity is regulated. Price regulation can work.

Yes, utilities and other government sponsored monopolies are often price regulated. Electricity rates are regulated in many states. Applying principles for public utilities or other government sponsored monopoly operations to the healthcare market would be an extremely poor strategy for implementing any kind of meaningful reform. But it might be a good formula for making obamacare seem like a viable alternative by comparison.

19 posted on 05/24/2016 1:32:38 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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Add NEW requirements (and implement the bureaucracy to enforce them) OR reduce regulation and enable free markets to operate and get government out of the way. But try to do both, and you set yourself up for failure. By the way, point number 2 from your original post would obviate the need for requiring point number 1. In a free market, providers would communicate prices and consumers would act accordingly. There is no need to mandate the requirement.


20 posted on 05/24/2016 1:39:08 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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