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Cruz Is a Safer General-Election Bet than Trump
The National Review ^ | April 12, 2016 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 04/13/2016 9:04:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The conventional wisdom is that though Ted Cruz can excite the conservative-activist base of the Republican party, he can’t beat Hillary Clinton in a general election. But the recent head-to-head polling tells a different story. Unless your name is George W. Bush, it’s tough to win 270 electoral votes without winning the popular vote. And Cruz is hanging in there against the Democratic front-runner. The RealClearPolitics average puts Clinton at 46.4 percent and Cruz at 43.9 percent; the most recent McClatchy-Marist survey has it a tie. Meanwhile, Donald Trump, the current Republican front-runner, hasn’t led Clinton in any national poll since mid February, and trails her by 10.6 points in the RCP average. Democrats will contend the Texas senator is unlikeable, and scoff that about 53 percent of adults have an unfavorable opinion of Cruz . . . a charge that would carry more weight if 54 percent of adults didn’t have an unfavorable opinion of Clinton. Cruz and his campaign have openly discussed a general-election strategy focused upon mobilizing conservative voters who haven’t turned out in recent cycles, and de-emphasizing an appeal to swing voters. Quite a few political scientists, pollsters, and analysts are skeptical that the approach can win, but what if 2016 comes down to Hillary Clinton, unloved by the Sanders-backing progressive base and distrusted by independents, against Cruz and an energized GOP base? As NR reported back in January, “Cruz heads the most data-driven campaign in the GOP race, employing cutting-edge technology to profile, target, and turn out supporters. Statistical awareness permeates the culture of the operation from the candidate to his most junior aides.” Based on the Cruz campaign’s deft maneuvering in the delegate chase, there’s some reason to believe the Texas senator’s claims that he can win by focusing on the little details and mobilizing previously ignored voters.

Trump also contends he’ll bring out new voters, winning over blue-collar independents and the old Reagan Democrats. His fans have argued that he would put a lot of traditionally Democratic states, such as New York and Michigan, back in play. But so far, there’s little evidence to back up that claim; Trump trails Clinton in his home state of New York by 16 to 29 points. In the three polls in Michigan in March, Trump trailed by double digits. (Unsurprisingly, Cruz polls badly in these states, too.) Florida is one of the few states where Trump is running better against Clinton than Cruz is. Trump has enjoyed a narrow lead over Clinton in about half the recent polls there, while Clinton nurses a small but steady lead over Cruz. (For what it’s worth, the latest CNN poll has Cruz ahead of her by one point in Florida.)

Cruz is running surprisingly well in Ohio. The most recent NBC News/Marist poll puts Cruz ahead of Clinton by two points there, while Trump trails her by six. Quinnipiac, the only recent poll of the Buckeye State to show Trump leading Clinton, has Cruz ahead of her by three and Trump up by two. RELATED: Ted Cruz Is Surging by Design Pennsylvania is one of those states that seems to tease the GOP every election cycle, only to vote for the Democratic nominee by a comfortable margin. Winning Pennsylvania’s 20 electoral votes would provide a big boost to any Republican nominee, forcing the Democrats to pick off votes on less-friendly terrain. The good news for Trump is that the most recent poll, by Fox News, has him tied in Pennsylvania. But the four preceding polls of the state showed him trailing Clinton by anywhere from three to 13 points. Fox News didn’t ask about a Cruz–Clinton matchup, but Quinnipiac has Cruz and Clinton tied in Pennsylvania, while Clinton is ahead of Trump by three.

Like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin is one of those potential swing states where Republicans have struggled to compete in recent presidential cycles. Even the presence of Paul Ryan on the ticket in 2012 only reduced Obama’s margin of victory from 14 points to seven. But Cruz is running surprisingly close there; the Emerson poll puts Clinton ahead of him by three points and the Marquette University survey has them tied. The two polls put Trump behind Clinton by ten points. One of the biggest contrasts between the GOP candidates comes in Iowa. NBC News and PPP have Clinton ahead of Tump by eight points and two points respectively. The same polls put Cruz ahead of Clinton by four points and three points. Perhaps one of the strongest arguments for nominating Cruz over Trump is that it would lock up states Republicans should never have had to worry about in the first place. The controversial mogul is so repugnant to some groups of traditionally Republican-leaning voters, he would put some previously deep-red states in play.

A 28-point lead for Ted Cruz over Hillary Clinton in Utah is not particularly surprising — but it is noteworthy given that Clinton actually leads Trump by two in the latest poll of this conservative stronghold, which hasn’t voted for a Democratic presidential nominee since 1964. Democrats have dreamed of turning Arizona into a swing state for years; the Merrill poll found Clinton tied with Trump there. The same poll showed Cruz leading Clinton by six points. In Mississippi, a Mason-Dixon poll put Trump ahead of Clinton, 46 percent to 43 percent. The same poll put Cruz ahead of her, 51 percent to 40 percent. If Cruz’s strategy was such a sure loser, so devoid of appeal to anyone outside the conservative base, we might expect his head-to-head polling against Hillary Clinton to be as bad as Trump’s. But in state after state, Cruz runs better than Trump against the likely Democratic nominee. Perhaps this reflects Clinton’s persistently high disapproval numbers, or maybe Trump’s smash-mouth braggadocio makes Cruz look comparably warm and fuzzy. Either way, at this point, Cruz appears to have a legitimate shot against Clinton — not a great shot, but a shot. The same cannot be said of Trump. You do the math.


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To: 2ndDivisionVet; map; cba123
If it’s in Gateway Pundit or Conservative Treehouse it must be true.

If it's in Mic.com, it must be true, and 2ndDivisionCommunityOrganizer will post it. :)

41 posted on 04/13/2016 9:26:27 PM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: sagar

At least we can be certain that Trump doesn’t dance at the end of anyone’s string.

Cruz not so much...


42 posted on 04/13/2016 9:27:00 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz has shown he cares about power and doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the will of the people. He would be a terrible and dangerous President.


43 posted on 04/13/2016 9:27:01 PM PDT by niki
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To: PGalt
Cruz will stomp Hillary in Florida and Ohio, just like he did in the...

Oh, wait...

44 posted on 04/13/2016 9:27:24 PM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

i can certainly wait and see. but i don’t think cruz is getting the votes.


45 posted on 04/13/2016 9:28:16 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: gg188

NR one of the many “conservative” media paid directly by Cruz superpacs. Same as Beck and Levin and many others. FEC documents can be found at FEC.gov to prove this, though I am sure Cruzers won’t search and view, preferring blissful ignorance.>>>> can you do links?


46 posted on 04/13/2016 9:30:11 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tagline suffices. Other than that...crickets crickets crickets...


47 posted on 04/13/2016 9:30:51 PM PDT by taketheredpill (Fraud Cruz's so-called ground game IS the G O Pe and its enablers, aka Cruz supporters)
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To: mac_truck

“At least we can be certain that Trump doesn’t dance at the end of anyone’s string.”

The problem is that Trump IS the string. An unreliable, inconsistent string that swings left to right and back to left. Not good.


48 posted on 04/13/2016 9:31:23 PM PDT by sagar (3 way race; cranky populist - Trump/Sanders, establishment - Hillary/Roobio, conservative - Cruz!)
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To: sargon
Here's the guy at NRO who wrote the original article referenced in this thread:



NRO's Jim Geraghty

49 posted on 04/13/2016 9:33:22 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ( "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil!" Isaiah 5:20)
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To: cba123
Yes or no, 2ndDivisionVet?

You must post 10-15 threads every night. Seriously, how much money are you making.

50 posted on 04/13/2016 9:33:31 PM PDT by stratboy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“You’ve seen reports? Where?”
In the thread below, “I’m Rootng For Cruz/Sanders” at #34 you said, ‘You think I’m the only campaign volunteer here?’ which really wasn’t responsive to the call of the question.
I believe the question was, are you a paid Cruz worker spamming FR.
As when someone retreived a post you made here in a thread on Obama’s eligibility, where you stated that the definition of “natural born citizen” required two American parents.
BFAC takes enough grief. I suppose it comes with territory.
Maybe you could expand on your answer, keeping in mind the meaning of the word “volunteer.”


51 posted on 04/13/2016 9:33:34 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Keep telling yourself that members of this board who criticize Cruz are ‘recent infiltrators from the left’.

Maybe some of us, as longtime members, are sick of the GOPe of which your guy is a member. Put on your sticky tag that labels you as a high and mighty principled conservative and say hello to President Clinton.


52 posted on 04/13/2016 9:33:52 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: sagar

Nonsense bub.

Trump is a patriot who will secure this nation, stop the immigrant invasion, end foreign entanglements and restore jobs and growth to this country.

Get in the way of that agenda at your own risk.


53 posted on 04/13/2016 9:34:25 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: lee martell

Donald shakes my confidence when he does dumb stuff like that, shooting himself in the foot over and over.>>>> he needs to stop doing pressers. his speeches are the same and popular


54 posted on 04/13/2016 9:35:01 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gotta say, it’s discouraging that anyone could try to push this. Cruz can’t even compete in Republican primaries in the south or northeast. Hell, he’s actually been run out of the NE.

Maybe some of these prognosticators should look at what’s actually happening to form their esteemed opinions. With Cruz you lose, plain and simple.


55 posted on 04/13/2016 9:40:33 PM PDT by Kenny (e)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I found the article interesting and informative. Thanks for posting. Be safe.


56 posted on 04/13/2016 9:45:54 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: cba123

Ha ha ha.

You are a Trump sign up complaining about someone else being partisan?

Give it a rest.


57 posted on 04/13/2016 9:46:47 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

55 post and no one has posted anything of substance to refute the article. Just a bunch guesses and feelings.

The only thing I see here are personal attacks against 2nd saying he is bought off.

This is really pathetic if this is all you Trump supporters can post to refute the article.


58 posted on 04/13/2016 9:48:32 PM PDT by jimpick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here's your argument against Cruz.  photo image_zpslip05gwg.jpeg
59 posted on 04/13/2016 9:49:00 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: cba123

To shed some insight into your questions for 2ndDivisionVet, I’ve worked in Internet marketing since the mid 90s, often times companies buy up or acquire unused user names from the owner since they have been registered for a long time and hold more weight within a forum, rather than a brand new account that will look like a paid poster.

Not saying that’s the case here, but it’s common in the SEO business.

I’m a newer member here, but am motivated by my passion for Trump. My Mom has read this site since it started and has always been trying to get me to visit, I finally did and am glad I signed up. :)


60 posted on 04/13/2016 9:51:55 PM PDT by Rufus Shinra (Voting in my first primary in PA on April 26th!)
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