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“We were set up…they had an ambush set up for us"
http://www.roseburgbeacon.com/ ^ | Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 5:24PM | David Jacques

Posted on 02/27/2016 11:46:24 AM PST by azkathy

Harney County, Or-During a traffic stop on a deserted stretch of Hwy 395 in south eastern Oregon, LaVoy Finicum with four passengers in his truck came to a complete stop. Ryan Payne who was sitting in the front seat, stuck both hands out of the passenger window to demonstrate that he was unarmed and posed no threat to law enforcement. It was at that time, said Shawna Cox, a passenger in the back seat, that she heard shots ring out as a bullet hit the rear view mirror post on Payne’s side of the truck, right next to his outstretched hands. At first she thought the bullet had hit the metallic bracelet on his wrist. She said Payne, recoiling from the shot, jerked his arms back inside the vehicle.

The group was on their way to John Day, Oregon, for a scheduled pubic meeting with local ranchers, townspeople, and anyone interested in learning about what’d been going on in Harney County. In the truck with Finicum were Ryan Payne, Shawna Cox, Victoria Sharp (18years old), and Ryan Bundy.

After taking fire during the traffic stop, Payne told Finicum he wanted to get out; “These guys are serious” he said. Payne repeatedly told law enforcement as he exited the vehicle that there were women in the truck. Shawna Cox said she heard them shout back to send the women out. But the young Sharp girl was terrified and she told Finicum she wasn’t going to get out because they were being shot at. Cox said her motherly instinct kicked in and she said she wasn’t going to leave this young girl in the back seat unprotected. It was then that Finicum told law enforcement he was going to see the Sheriff, and Cox said he started off down the road.

Cox said she started trying to call or text to let others know what was going on, but there was no cell service. She said this seemed odd because right up till the time of the stop, she had actively been sending text messages and had cell service, “we just had it, and now we had nothing”. That’s when she said she knew they had been set up. Without cell service she decided she would start filming and trying to record what was happening with her camera.

When she asked LaVoy how far they had yet to go, he said about fifty miles. Cox said she thought about the vehicles in pursuit, wondering if their tires would get shot out by them. It was about that time that she said she couldn’t tell if LaVoy was hitting the brakes, or they were just plowing through slush, which was spraying up beside the rear truck windows. She said as they swerved she could see the vehicles in the middle of the road blocking their passage. She said as they swerved to avoid hitting them “we got stuck” in the snow. She said “immediately there are lasers everywhere, all over, and LaVoy jumps out, he flings open the door, and throws his hands in the air, and he jumps out and starts running through this deep snow. We can see him, and I have it on video, we’re just freaking out because there are bullets flying- he’s yelling “go ahead and shoot me, go ahead and shoot me”. I honestly believe that he was trying to draw fire away from us.” At this time during the interview she becomes emotional, holding back tears and continues, “LaVoy’s a father of many girls-he’s very protective. I think he was drawing the fire away from us.”

Cox said they were hunkered down in the back seat of the vehicle to avoid gunfire, but that she had her camera videoing what she could. “They’re shooting all the windows out. And we can’t get out, we’re pinned down.”

Ryan Bundy was trying to look out but they kept pushing him down as they continued to dodge the lasers and bullets. We knew they had killed LaVoy by then, but they were just trying to stay down to avoid being hit.

Cox said the window next to her head had been hit four or five times but that one hadn’t broke, which she said was a miracle of God’s protection. She said we just lay there and kept praying. She said the shooting went on for at least five or ten minutes it seemed, though there was no way to tell. She said that she and Victoria had been yelling for them to stop, but they wouldn’t stop shooting, and they had also fired some sort of gas into the vehicle, making it hard to breathe, and their eyes were burning.

Finally the shooting stopped and they told the man to get out. “I don’t think they knew it was Ryan Bundy.” And when Bundy got out he said “I got hit in the shoulder”. She said it was in his right shoulder.

After he got out, Cox said Victoria was next and they took both into custody. Then Cox said she was ordered out, and as she got out had to put down her phone camera and papers she was carrying.

As she and Victoria walked beside the vehicle they could see LaVoy laying dead in the snow. She said he was facing up. “He was laying back in the snow, and his feet were deep down in the snow, and he had his hands out like this [she had her arms stretched out]. The left had was out [to the side] and his right hand was kind of at his chest. His hat was still on.”

Then Cox tells how they were taken over to the other side of the truck and seated on the ground as they were cuffed. She said as they were walking they were asked repeatedly if anyone else was in the vehicle. Cox told them no, they were it. That’s when she said they opened fire again, this time shooting out the window where she had been sitting a few minutes ago.

Cox said she began telling the FBI and State Troopers present; “You murdered him in cold blood, he didn’t have a gun.” She remarked that he did not have a gun in his hand and though he typically carried a side arm on his right hip in a holster, a revolver, they didn’t take the guns to meetings, so she was sure she did not see him with a gun as he exited the vehicle, and he definitely did not have one in his hands.

She said as they looked over where LaVoy’s body lay, she could see “all these men coming out from behind the trees. I’ll bet you there were like twenty four of them. They had the long guns, and they had these caps like with binoculars’ that flip down. It was like this army; a battlefield.” Cox estimated that there were hundreds of rounds fired into their truck. “I believe they intended to kill us all”.

Cox said as they were lead down the road to be placed into a van, she told them again that they had murdered an innocent man and that she felt sorry for them, and she’d pray for them. They got in the van and sat there for a very long time, trying to keep warm.

They recognized that Ryan Bundy had been shot, so they called for an ambulance which picked him up.

Then, they took them back down the road to where the other vehicle that was travelling behind them was, and “there we saw Ammon and Booda and Mark and Ryan Payne, and they loaded them in the van with us.

She said then they just sat there for hours, in the back of this van. Cox asked if they were under arrest, and she was told “no, you’re just being detained”.

They were then all hauled back to Burns in the van. At that point they were all split up into SUV’s at a rest area and shuttled to Portland. Cox said they drove like “madmen” eighty miles an hour the whole way.

After three days in custody in Portland, Cox was released Friday night Jan 29th. She said she was just turned out in the lobby of the jail with nothing but a set of street clothes they gave her (not her own) and a $50 VISA card. She did not have her purse or identification, her credit cards, camera, cell phone, or any of her personal items. She had not signed any release forms, and was given no conditions for her release.

On Sunday she got a call from her attorney, a public defender, and was informed she had to come back to Portland (she was already on her way home to southern Utah) to get an ankle bracelet and sign a conditional release document.

She is basically on house arrest, confined to her own home until trial. She cannot be on any federally owned property except a Post Office, she cannot be in the presence of firearms, and she cannot contact any of her co-defendants.

On a separate but related issue, her husband was informed there could be no firearms in the house upon her return, so he took them to a family member’s home for safe keeping. Her son-in law stored them in a shop-office building on the property near his home and was working outside that day on a piece of equipment. He went inside to get warm by the woodstove, and Shawna said they believe something ignited, and the building went up in flames. By the time her daughter, who was down at the house, became aware of the fire the emergency vehicles were pulling up.

Absolute chaos was the way the scene was described by her daughter, as bullets were going off, they couldn’t get to her husband and he perished in the fire which consumed the entire structure. Cox said that much speculation has been out there about the tragedy being related, but she said the family believes it was “just a terrible accident” and that they do not suspect foul play.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bundy; constitution; finicum; oregonambush; oregonstandoff; rally
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To: azkathy
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21 posted on 02/27/2016 2:31:02 PM PST by pilgrim
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To: azkathy

The Democrat leaders rule by fear.

They frighten their voters by telling them that they will starve if they don’t vote for the Democrat leaders.

They frighten Republican leaders with threats of having their Democrat voters riot.

They use fear because they know how effective it is.

Because they themselves are scared to death.

So if you show up with weapons, you are telling the Democrat leaders that you aren’t afraid of them.

That really frightens them so they strike out in fear.

The Democrats will kill you if they really fear you.

Man, woman, child.....it doesn’t matter.

They are afraid and they want the fear to stop.

If they have to kill you, well, so what?

You made them scared and that makes you evil.


22 posted on 02/27/2016 2:31:27 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: azkathy
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23 posted on 02/27/2016 2:31:43 PM PST by pilgrim
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To: azkathy; Old Sarge; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; freeangel; kalee; TWhiteBear; ...
"We were set up…they had an ambush set up for us"


24 posted on 02/27/2016 2:32:08 PM PST by LucyT
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To: azkathy
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25 posted on 02/27/2016 2:32:17 PM PST by pilgrim
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To: azkathy

Bttt.

5.56mm


26 posted on 02/27/2016 2:35:09 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: azkathy

Obama’s Muzzie Brohood fed gestapo murdered a Christian Oregonian and attempted to murder others including females, threw people back in prison who had already served time for burning brush and they WILL keep this up. Any citizens who demonstrate against the Feds are fair game according to the dictator running the government especially if they are Christian and own guns.

The democrats have destroyed our state.
They did it for money and votes.
Fu(k ‘em.


27 posted on 02/27/2016 2:39:43 PM PST by doc maverick
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To: azkathy
Hundreds of government documents were compiled by those at the refuge. Many of the documents exposed abusive actions by federal government officials, Judge Grasty, Harney County Sheriff’s Department and direct abuses to the Hammond family.

I sincerely hope those documents have been scanned and archived in multiple locations.

People will never understand the magnitude of the problem until they can see the pattern of abuse--not just isolated incidents, but pervasive behaviour.

28 posted on 02/27/2016 3:40:51 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: azkathy

Do you have info on where they are?


29 posted on 02/27/2016 3:48:49 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Bob434
They don't want to know.

Look at the tactics used below. Any rancher in the West will find them familiar:

From Trump Winery

Trump bought the 1,300-acre vineyard and winery for a fraction of its original value. He was criticized for his unethical behavior during this acquisition. He began by buying the 200 acres surrounding the property for less than $500,000. He then placed "No Trespassing" signs around the property. This warded off potential buyers and gave Trump exclusive access to the property. This forced the property into foreclosure and gave Trump the opportunity to buy the land from Bank of America for $3.6 million, a small fraction of the property's real worth ($12M).[6] Development and renovation of the property was given to Eric Trump, who also supervised the acquisition.

30 posted on 02/27/2016 3:56:43 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: bubbacluck
"the US government is very afraid of the people and are acting accordingly"

That's my impression from reading this article too.

31 posted on 02/27/2016 4:03:19 PM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Bob434
Actually, I would not have voted for Christie before, nor the guy he is brown nosing. So I don't care, in a sense, because it will not affect my decision in the future.

Trump could fry live kittens in Times Square and few of his supporters would care.

32 posted on 02/27/2016 4:06:27 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: blueunicorn6
One problem, Gordon Kahl happened under Reagan's watch, Ruby Ridge happened under GHWB's watch, and Waco under Clinton. It isn't just the Democrats who bag a few, but almost never the socialist or racist left. (MOVE was an exception).
33 posted on 02/27/2016 4:15:45 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: azkathy

Where and when are the rallies??


34 posted on 02/27/2016 5:12:19 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Almost never the socialist or racist left”

Well, if you exclude those socialist picnics in the Ukraine and in China and in The Killing Fields.

What’s that.....60 million dead human beings “saved” by the socialists?


35 posted on 02/27/2016 5:59:02 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Smokin' Joe
How can you surround 1,300-acres with 200 acres? The whole idea stinks so I checked further.

As Ms. Kluge's empire collapsed, Mr. Trump bought. Over the past six months, he swooped in and picked up many of the pieces of her palatial Virginia estate and winery. He bought the 1,000-acre vineyard and winery for a fraction of their original value. He bought 200 acres nearby for less than $500,000, with help from Ms. Kluge and her son.
So the plot thickens.
Mr. Trump, however, had quietly cut a side deal that would frustrate the bank's plans. He and the Kluges had been friends for more than 30 years. When Ms. Kluge ran out of money, she came to Mr. Trump's office asking for a rescue.
So, Donald Trump to the rescue!

Before the February foreclosure, Mr. Trump paid $500,000 for about 200 acres around the house. The property included most of the front yard, most of the driveway and a large chunk of the back yard.
And now the coup de grâce.

Mr. Trump's son Eric is now running the vineyard with assistance from Ms. Kluge. In a statement, Ms. Kluge said she is "thrilled at having a second chance to fulfill my dream."
It is all here in the Wall Street Journal link. They try to make a hit piece but it really is a story about Donald Trump the knight in shining armor that helps a friend in need. And it was obviously a lie that Trump forced the property into foreclosure.
The seller of the 200 acres was a Kluge-family trust created for John Kluge II, John's son.

The Fall of the House of Kluge Leads to the Rise of the Yard of Trump

36 posted on 02/27/2016 6:15:58 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - already voted for Trump 2016 & Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide)
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To: pilgrim

The biggest THANK YOU ever!!!


37 posted on 02/27/2016 6:30:12 PM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: higgmeister
The big trick is to control access.Just like the BLM does out west, they shut down the access to water on ranch land, even deeded water rights. Then the land can't be used for grazing, 'cause cattle die without water.

!300 acres is 36 acres by 37 acres in a nearly square parcel, easily surrounded by a 1 acre wide strip with a mere 150 acres. that leaves 50 acres extra.

You are free to take it up with the source: here

38 posted on 02/27/2016 7:02:12 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: azkathy

You are welcome!!!

Thanks for the opportunity!!


39 posted on 02/27/2016 7:41:42 PM PST by pilgrim
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To: blueunicorn6
The statement was "It isn't just the Democrats who bag a few, but almost never the socialist or racist left."

In the United States, the victims of government action are seldom from groups like "Occupy" the "Weathermen" or "Black Lives Matter". Those groups get a pass. The victims of government action are generally either individuals resisting totalitarianism, or folks from the religious Right, up to and including caucasian racists.

I thought the Reference to the Democrats would be clue enough that I was referring to the abuses of power by the US Government, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough.

Elsewhere, as I believe we will find out here, too, Governments only kill those who either fail in their assigned duties or oppose the government in any way, especially by desiring the rights and freedom we used to freely enjoy here.

I take little solace in the thought that America will be the last to fold, but we are well on our way.

40 posted on 02/27/2016 9:56:44 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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