Posted on 02/23/2016 1:02:14 PM PST by relictele
Both sides in the debate about deporting illegal aliens seem to have accepted wholesale certain phrases, concepts and images.
We hear about roundups as if we're talking about lassos and runaway cattle. Advocates for illegal immigration are, as always, quick to forward the notion that apprehending criminals (yes they've committed a crime. QED.) will be akin to (all together now) Nazi Germany's arbitrary persecution, collection and detention of Jews. Cue the Photoshops and cartoons of guards, dogs, prison buses, trains, camps, groups of sad sacks with hands raised in surrender, long lines of prisoners chained together, etc.
But we're talking about government here. The same government whose idea of fixing anything is usually to throw money at it and stand around waiting for the next coffee break. Government doesn't do anything with style or even PR these days. It's a shambling grey blob.
The reality is that we identify, locate and apprehend thousands of criminals, fugitives and those with outstanding warrants for their arrest every day, all day. There are sheriff's offices in every county in America. There are US Marshals. 99% of these incidents are peaceful, even mundane. A knock on the door, a shrug of the shoulders, a reading of rights, an application of handcuffs and a ride in a car or a van. No muss, no fuss. Do some evade such enforcement? Resist violently? Of course. But as usual the public's view has been distorted by ludicrous dialogue-heavy standoffs and shootouts in Hollywood films. The vast majority of those mug shots printed in newspapers and shown on TV news were obtained during another humdrum shift by police on the streets or another humdrum shift at the regional jail.
Similar enforcement by immigration authorities will be equally humdrum and bureaucratic. Granted, locating individuals who have, intentionally or otherwise, no proper identification or records can be tricky but by the same token most of these people have been brazenly hiding in plain sight, smugly aware that La Migra pose no threat to them thanks to La Migra's cynical, craven political bosses who eagerly want to stuff the ballot box.
Besides, we are always told that the illegals are solid, peaceful, hard-working mostly law-abiding citizens (except for that pesky border-jumping/visa-violating part) who just want A Better Life (and, of course, we are obligated to give it to them) Their own mouthpieces emphatically state they are not violent, so let's take them at their word.
Deportations will involve small groups, say 10 or 12, but they might involve just a few people or even a lone individual depending on home nation or other circumstances. White vans, chartered planes, Air Force bases closed to the public and the usual drab blankness of officialdom will rob the propagandists of the sort of 40s or 60s iconography they covet to inflame passions.
The laws are already on the books. The methods and procedures for arrest are long-established. It won't be East Germany. It won't be Bosnia. It won't be Stalin's Russia. It will merely be another collar felt, paperwork done, mug shot snapped and a one-way trip home.
Goodnight Sam, Goodnight Ralph. But do it again tomorrow and the day after that.
Oops - DEPORTING!
Until we can prevent them from re-entering, deportation is a moot point. Build the damned wall.
As Trump has opined, and correctly IMHO, many will self deport when the free lunch evaporates.
Enforce e-verify and cut off all taxpayer funded benefits to illegals and most of them will leave. More importantly, other illegals stop coming. It is not that difficult.
Tomato, tomoto
watching one america news yesterday, they were commenting how some new migrants to european countries are going back/leaving due to not liking conditions/handouts etc of countries they entered.
Thats a huge part of answer for USA illegal alien issue right there. we don’t need to round up all as so many even on FR keep whining saying it can’t be done.
Take away the free stuff and most of them will leave tomorrow.
THAT is the method. Deny benefits and go after the employers. No anchor baby status.
Poof, they're gone.
thanks for posting this chart :)
Deny parasitic illegal aliens welfare, and enforce existing laws against employing them? The far left freaks out.
” No anchor baby status.
Poof, they’re gone.”
Rubio too? I hope.
If we stop giving them state and federal assistance, snap, housing, disability for not speaking English, free medical care, free education, etc, there won’t be many left till we’re ready to deport.
Yep Trump-ster
When Trump starts actually building the wall, there could be legislation passed making e-Verify mandatory for every employer, and saying that anyone here illegally has until the wall is completed to leave the country. If they are caught here after the wall is finished, they will be deported, maybe a provision that if they are apprehended, and deported, they will NEVER be allowed back in for any reason. I’m betting that about half the illegals would leave on their own.
I agree, but Trump will have to take it 1 step further. Commiefornia has their own “Special” welfare plan for Criminal Invaders, which could be fixed overnight by WITHHOLDING ALL FEDERAL FUNDS TO ANY STATE THAT PROVIDES WELFARE ASSISTANCE, or TAXPAYER FUNDED SERVICES to Criminal Invaders.
Well 40% are visa overstays so they need to be contacted and given 48 hours to depart our shores.
There is no need to go to all of that....
Make being in the US illegally an “A” felony with 20 years prison, and deportation with them never, ever allowed to re-enter. A second offense is a capital crime, and execution is certain.
If you are apprehended in connection to another felony, it goes immediately to a capital offense.
They will leave on their own.
Prison with hard labor.
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