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To: HiTech RedNeck

“It was a hideous blot on church history no matter how it’s looked at. Jewish, Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox, agnostic, almost anything. Only the devil could love it.”

Same could be said about the Protestant Revolution.

“But these murders were not the worst murders it committed.”

They weren’t murders.

“The worst murders were its murders of soul.”

Which is a natural result of heresy - heresies like Protestantism.

“These were people with no excuse not to know the gospel — and they treated it as their selfish cudgel, until it could not be identified as gospel anymore.”

Wow, Protestantism again.

“Forget Mary — Don’t you think JESUS wept?”

No. He’s in Heaven. There’s no weeping there. And that is our hope for the end of time: Revelation 21:4.

“I’ve heard that there was a bad infiltration of Islamists into the church at that point in history, which led to its hideous torture practices.”

No. Torture ALWAYS existed. And none of the tortures used by inquisitors - which was quite rare and much more rare that what was used in the usual state criminal cases - were “Islamic”. Torture was for information alone, and even then that information could not be used against the suspected person in the legal proceedings as we might think. No permanent harm was to come to the person tortured. No bones were to be broken, no skin was to be broken, etc. A torture session was only supposed to be for 15 minutes and was to only happen once and not repeated. Think of the U.S. government’s water boarding of terrorists. It was similar.

“Maybe there was. However we still have a church asleep at the wheel, permitting it.”

Not asleep at all.

“A church that at this point in time mostly worshiped itself.”

No, actually entirely focused on the worship of the Trinity.

“Why was there any Christianity at all going on in it, it is to be wondered.”

It’s not to be wondered. Christ established the Church among men.

“Well if it weren’t for the Lord’s promise to keep the church alive, there wouldn’t be any. However it showed how hideous the church can get, and it should serve as a warning to all churches today of any denomination. May it be the “NEVER AGAIN” of Christendom.”

No, the “NEVER AGAIN” of Christendom - which no longer exists thanks to Protestantism - would be either:

1) another wave of Islamic conquest of Christian peoples. In terms of tragedy the Islamic conquest of North Africa - which was entirely Christian - was a tragedy many thousands of times worse than all inquisitions combined.

0r, 2) another Protestant-like revolt which would destroy millions and millions of souls with heresy, lead to wars as it did in Germany (one-third of Germany was wiped out in the Thirty Years’ War), and a weakened West open to Islamic conquest (just as it left Europe in the 16th and 17th century).


10 posted on 02/01/2016 12:54:04 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

Oh dear, if this is worship of Trinity, who would want Trinity?

The Protestants have vastly outclassed you and you are bitter jealous.


13 posted on 02/01/2016 1:11:04 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: vladimir998

There was nothing Christian about the church that did these ghastly acts. Not even of only against one person.
And love your defense, “protestants did it too”.

Of course they did. And too bad the 38 snub hadn’t been invented. Because the protestant judges at Salem, guys like Calvin himself, and a few others deserved a bullet at the moment they were engaged in ecclesiastical murder. And I can happily say none were ordained by Jesus or doing his work.
Neither was Rome back then. Thankfully they are not in error these days.
I do not assign the slightest guilt to the Roman church today. But I also do not accept that the church back then was anything but evil, small minded and oppressive. Most protestants of the era suffered the same disgusting leaders.
But you wont find a protestant celebrating Salem.


16 posted on 02/01/2016 1:24:42 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: vladimir998

“another Protestant-like revolt which would destroy millions and millions of souls with heresy”

The pope does not agree with you that protestants are damned.
From the Catholic catechism.
“ “…one cannot charge with the sin of the separation those who at present are born into these communities [i.e., Protestant churches] that resulted from such separation and in them are brought up in the faith of Christ, and the Catholic Church accepts them with respect and affection as brothers. All who have been justified by faith in baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church.””

You can complain to the Vatican if you disagree.


17 posted on 02/01/2016 1:30:11 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: vladimir998
Same could be said about the Protestant Revolution.

And will be by folks like you!

95 posted on 02/04/2016 2:14:43 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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