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FBI Video Release of Lavoy Finicum Shooting and Why CTH is Reluctant to Engage
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | 1/31/2016 | Sundance

Posted on 01/31/2016 9:23:41 AM PST by Sioux-san

There are several reasons why we have chosen not to dig into this specific aspect of this event, after posting the first three research articles. Here are the ones we are comfortable stating:

The freedom continuum has two diametrically opposing forces on either end. On one end, the left, if you travel outward from democracy to socialism to communism eventually you arrive at totalitarianism. The absolute power of government over the individual. The maximum amount of liberty lost.

On the oppositional end, the right, again if you travel from democracy to a constitutional republic and keep going, eventually you arrive at a place absent of any government. This is anarchy. This is law of the jungle, survival of the fittest. Mad Max type societal tribe formation.

Neither path, left nor right, is good when taken to its ultimate conclusion.

However, the freedom continuum is not linear.

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The Conservative Treehouse does some of the best investigative reporting on the Web. After reading their first three posts on the Oregon situation, I anxiously awaited updates, especially after the shooting of Finicum. As usual, it's complicated...
1 posted on 01/31/2016 9:23:41 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

Complicated?

He is now underwritten and writes what he is told, it seems obvious.


2 posted on 01/31/2016 9:31:25 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Sioux-san

Man,that was painful to read


3 posted on 01/31/2016 9:31:52 AM PST by advertising guy
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To: Sioux-san

Mad Max social tribes are not anarchy, they are an establishment of some kind of order (feudal, dictator, empaneled) in the wake of societal collapse/rejection (anarchy).

And the black flag waving capital A anarchists are Socialist. Socialist Anarchy. They still want universal healthcare with a decentralized governance.


4 posted on 01/31/2016 9:32:22 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: Sioux-san

BTTT


5 posted on 01/31/2016 9:33:40 AM PST by Guenevere (If.the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do....)
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To: Sioux-san
I have yet to hear if any of the FBI or OSP Directly involved
in the shooting were wearing body-cams.
The drone footage conveniently supports their narrative.
Body-cam footage might tell a different story.
6 posted on 01/31/2016 9:41:06 AM PST by Duke C.
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To: Sioux-san

Huge leaps to subjective conclusions are always interesting to me. There’s one in the commnets about the tracks in the trees - the comment limits the tracks to “the feds” when anyone could have made them. There is no way for the commneter to know if it actually was “the feds” who made the tracks but that doesn’t stop them from stating a subjective conclusion as if it is an absolute objective fact.


7 posted on 01/31/2016 9:43:03 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Duke C.

I am highly skeptical of the official narrative. Who gets out of their vehicle ready to fight WITHOUT their gun already drawn? He was shot in cold blood IMHO... until some new information proving me wrong arrives.


8 posted on 01/31/2016 9:46:19 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: Duke C.
The drone footage conveniently supports their narrative.

That's assuming it was not digitally altered to show him lowering his raised arms. But of course, nobody would have any reason to do that.

9 posted on 01/31/2016 9:48:19 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Sioux-san

Looked to me like Lavoy went to his shoulder holster and turned to the officer behind him before he was shot.


10 posted on 01/31/2016 9:49:20 AM PST by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

See post #10


11 posted on 01/31/2016 9:50:33 AM PST by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: Sioux-san
On the oppositional end, the right, again if you travel from democracy to a constitutional republic and keep going, eventually you arrive at a place absent of any government. This is anarchy. This is law of the jungle, survival of the fittest. Mad Max type societal tribe formation.

Do they ever provide any historical support for this claim?

I ask because the latest example of a Constitutional Republic is the United States of America, which has lasted more than 200 years, and is now being transitioned into a socialist, Marxist nation through anarchist actions created by socialists and Marxists.

12 posted on 01/31/2016 9:52:46 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: Jeff Head

BTTT.... FYI


13 posted on 01/31/2016 9:53:54 AM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: G Larry
Looked to me like Lavoy went to his shoulder holster and turned to the officer behind him before he was shot.

LaVoy went to the Taser prongs sticking out of his left back - not his shoulder holster.

14 posted on 01/31/2016 9:56:24 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: Squantos
LOL!

Nothing to hear, here.

Move along...

15 posted on 01/31/2016 9:57:32 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: G Larry

He exited the vehicle hands clearly in the air trying like hell to avoid being shot.


16 posted on 01/31/2016 9:57:37 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: savedbygrace

What do we call a “Constitutional Republic in Name Only”? A very bad turn was taken after the so-called Civil War. We have been bitter clingers to Past Glory for at least 100 years now. We have been “transitioning” a lot longer than you may think.


17 posted on 01/31/2016 9:59:12 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Squantos
Oops!

My bad.

Nothing to see here.

Move along.

18 posted on 01/31/2016 9:59:50 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: a fool in paradise

When anarchy finally arrives, the anarchists are always the first to die.


19 posted on 01/31/2016 10:00:01 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The goal of socialism is communism... Hatred is the basis of communism" --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: G Larry

It may look that way, but more knowledgeable people than me have looked at this and firmly believe that Finicun was shot and that is his flinch reaction. I believe his daughter. He was unarmed. No one in the vehicle was shooting. This was an ambush. Was Finicum pissed off? Clearly. Did more than one person shoot him? Yes. Did they leave him dying in the snow? Absolutely.


20 posted on 01/31/2016 10:01:43 AM PST by Sioux-san
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