The Revenant : Quentin Tarantino's Favorite Christmas Movie - Frigid Greed Driven Violence & Mayhem

Patton@Bastogne ^ | 2016-01-30 | Patton@Bastogne

[Patton@Bastogne]

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The Revenant : Quentin Tarantino's Favorite Christmas Movie


A "serious" performance by DeCaprio in a very violent movie that I'll never watch again, even when it's released on DVD.


It is different from American Sniper in that it has zero humorous moments, and light-years less nobility.

It's like being trapped in the Titanic's bitterly cold engine room for 2.5 hours, with grevious injuries, waiting for a painful death.

Even the father and son moments were difficult to watch. Too much pain and too much sorrow.


The violence is different from Saving Private Ryan and Gladiator.

Had the directors name not been announced, I would have bet $ 100 that it was that genuinely insane jerk Quentin Tarantino (whom I despise).

The Revenant had more pointless gratuitous violence than Reservoir Dogs.


The movie is simply a bloody, graphic portrayal of very evil men engaged in massacre, murder, rape and mayhem for 2.5 hours in the snow.



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[perfect_rovian_storm]

It was a hell of a lot better than Hateful Eight. That’s for sure.

[RIghtwardHo]

Huh.

I didn’t like it. I realize I’m in the minority, but the only thing I liked was the cinematography.

Oh well. To each his own.

[ifinnegan]

Thanks for the review.

[Jagdgewehr]

Being a student of American frontier history, there was a lot to appreciate for me. The Hugh Glass story has always fascinated me. Of course, Hollywood deviated from the true story. Nonetheless, I found the movie satisfactory and could imagine elements of the movie may have portrayed Glass’ ordeal well enough.

[Jagdgewehr]

Agreed.

[libertarian27]

Quentin Tarantino said The Revenant was his favorite Christmas movie?
I’d figure he’d say that The Hateful Eight would be that.

[nathanbedford]

My review from January 17,

I did not much like the film but I concede that it will perhaps prove a turning point for the genre like Shane, High Noon and many John Ford westerns. Still, I did not like the film.

There are two scenes which will revolutionize the Western genre, the Indian attack and the bear attack. Additionally, the movie is grand in its depiction of the landscape but that of course had already been done a half a century earlier by John Ford.

These considerations are visual rather than storyline but the cinema is after all a visual experience and advances in that experience are noteworthy and should be acknowledged.

The storyline in the movie is weak, the vapid spiritualism in the movie is misplaced, the motivation of Hugo Glass for revenge is contrived or at least I thought so since I knew the true story of this extraordinary and epic journey and I know that it had nothing to do with the murder of Hugh Glass' son so perhaps I was put off by this dramatic contrivance.

My review from January 17,

The art of screenwriting, it seems to me, is to present the character with a series of circumstances which forces him to draw deep within himself and risk everything to overcome the obstacles put in his path by the storyline. The storyline in this movie is really a man motivated by revenge but the screenwriter, it seems to me, tries to relieve that arid motivation with contrived scenes of Indian spiritualism and the normally politically correct portions of the evil white man.

It is the motivation that the moviemakers get wrong and it is the gratuitous political correctness concerning Indians inserted into the film that distort the pristine story.

See the movie, it is a turning point in Western films because of the virtuosity of the technology in depicting the bear attack and to a lesser degree the scope of the cinematography. Not since Jaws have we seen such a turning point of this particular cinematic action.

[dfwgator]

[Patton@Bastogne]

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Excellent analysis ...

the images were stunningly beautiful, majestic, isolated like the mountains on the moon ...

the bear attack was indeed a turning point in the engineering craft of film making ...

and the film crew deserves a medal for enduring the bitter cold ...


QT did not direct the movie, and does not have the skill to direct such a cineographic masterpiece ...

But QT, like the clearly evil vampire he wishes he were, revels in the graphic violent blood mayhem in The Revenant ...



BTW. What a refreshing Free Republic thread ... no one called a communist, socialist, dork, geek, idiot, moron, traitor ...

Thanks !


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[ebshumidors]

I saw it. Hard men living hard lives. About an hour too long and nobody to cheer for.

[maine-iac7]

I was disappointed - right off the bat - the whole thing was filmed in the harshest of winter weathers - they even went to to the South Pole to shoot some winter scenes.

It seemed they were more preoccupied with filming these winter scenes than telling the story...Maybe should have made a separate documentary for that?

Besides, the actual story wasn’t in winter - Grass got attacked by the bear in AUGUST. Seems it would’ve taken less money and far less stress on the actors to’ve filmed it in the proper context.

And the ending was off track - no base commander would’ve gone off to hunt down a killer without a group of soldiers - besides, the killer didn’t get killed. He joined the army, making it a hanging offense to kill him.

I prefer, if someone is going to use someone else’s work - the original book - and a true story - for them to stick closer to it. Or else write their own story instead of piggybacking off someone else’s work. . Otherwise, it’s like painting a copy of the Mona Lisa - and presume to improve upon it.

I like the original movie of the Glass saga better - with Richard Harris -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltyvk_TX_D4

[BenLurkin]

In related news:

Hitler Declared He Wanted to Free Humanity From “Conscience and Morality”
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[R_Kangel]

..... The Revenant was basically nothing more than a remake of “Man in the Wilderness” with Richard Harris and John Huston.

[Moltke]

It was a hell of a lot better than Hateful Eight. That's for sure.

I haven't looked around for a copy of the Revenant yet, but I did see the Hateful Eight - what a TURD (sorry) of a movie! So bad it took me four days to watch it in increments (just to get to the end and be done with it). Sort of like a very, very bad redux of Reservoir Dogs in cold weather. Meh!

[perfect_rovian_storm]

There’s a good copy floating around.

Yeah, Hateful Eight was one of the worst movies I’ve seen in a long time, but apparently the younger generation loves it. I kind of feel sorry for them that they think it was good filmmaking.

[Moltke]

Thanks for the clue - no hurry here. A couple of weeks at most...there’ll be a clean 720p copy on Usenet. P2P I avoid like the plague (if the clue happened to point in that direction...).

[perfect_rovian_storm]

True. Usenet is the way to go. Revenant is only available in 480 currently, but it’s a pretty decent copy. Certainly better than the ones we used to get back in the day.

[Moltke]

Oh, one further thought on the Hateful Eight...what was most annoying was the character doing the 1:1 impression of the Christoph Waltz characters in the previous Tarantino flicks Django Unchained (bad enough in itself) and/or Inglourious Basterds, if you know what I mean. Pathetic! Why would Tarantino do/allow that?

Now, just for the record, Kill Bill was good fun, so I don’t ‘hate’ Tarantino on principle.

[perfect_rovian_storm]

Seriously. And it was Tim Roth too. It’s like they couldn’t get Waltz and were too lazy to even do a quick rewrite, so they got Roth to do it as if he were Waltz. Couldn’t he have done a Tim Roth impression instead?

The whole movie just screamed “none of us care about any of this”.

They got an Ennio Morricone score and shot in 70mm and then shot the damn thing all in one room. That’s like something James Franco and Seth Rogan would dream up just to mess with people.

I don’t hate Tarantino either. I’ve certainly been less enamoured with his later films though.