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Stoeger Coach - a Survivalist Shotgun
Cal Sportsman ^
| 1/8/2016
| M Pandemic
Posted on 01/08/2016 6:06:07 AM PST by w1n1
At the time of 1923, Stoeger has been associated with fine firearms for the hunter, sportsman, and defensive shooter. Firearm diversity includes a variety of calibers and gauges: double barrel over-and-unders, side-by-sides, semi-autos, and pump-actions, as well as auto-loading defense and sporting pistols.
Stoeger actually began in 1923 in New York City (cough - back when NYC had common sense gun laws that promoted business) and grew until the 1990s, when Sako purchased the company. In 2000, Sako was in turn acquired by Beretta Holding, and Stoeger was placed under the current ownership of Benelli USA.
I first noticed Stoeger during the blitz of marketing around their double barreled coach guns a couple years ago with the boom of cowboy action shooting. The short barreled shotgun rose to popularity back in cowboy times via the Wells Fargo stagecoaches, where a handy, short, double barrel shotgun could deter unwanted coach visitors. With that need, the coach gun was actually produced by Wells Fargo as standard issue firearm at one point, but was followed in production by a number of other companies. Today, people are in love with the idea of the coach gun from a defensive perspective, an ideal survival shotgun. Read the read the rest of Stoeger shotgun story here.
TOPICS: Hobbies; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: banglist; shotgun; stoegercoach; survival
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To: BenLurkin
Can someone please explain to me why such a basic instrument is so expensive? I'm by far an expert but have seen some really well made break shotguns.
Usually when the action in closed the fit is so tight the line between the two pieces of steel is almost invisible.That must take many manhours by craftsmen.
A semi or pump is expected to have 'play' between the parts.
A nice break action shotgun is a thing of beauty.
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posted on
01/08/2016 7:25:20 AM PST
by
Vinnie
To: Kartographer
No. Some armchair commando came up with that idea years ago. Law enforcement laugh when they hear it.
1) You have eliminated your element of surprise.
2) You have given away your position.
3) Based on 1 and 2 above, you have increased risk to your safety.
Your shooter should be loaded, cocked, an locked.
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posted on
01/08/2016 7:32:45 AM PST
by
Cobra64
(Common sense isn't common anymore)
To: exnavy
And the perp knows exactly where you are...
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posted on
01/08/2016 7:34:39 AM PST
by
Cobra64
(Common sense isn't common anymore)
To: w1n1
Stoeger? Didnt they produce Lugers?
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posted on
01/08/2016 7:39:24 AM PST
by
weezel
To: w1n1
IF one wants a double barrel for home defense, get the one with rabbit ears. Reason? When you put two shells in the non-rabbit ear gun and close the breech, the thing is in the cocked position. Sure you can put the safety on, but springs have shelf lives ... the rabbit ear guns have a hammer block safety mechanism which means even if the tool falls on the external hammer, it will not discharge the chamber because the trigger is not fully depressed. You can leave a rabbit ears tool loaded without stressing any firing springs. Without external hammers, the tool should be left in the fully open position, to prevent stress on the springs.
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posted on
01/08/2016 7:39:56 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
To: Cobra64
If the prep is in my home, he knows God, face to face.
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posted on
01/08/2016 7:50:43 AM PST
by
exnavy
(good gun control: two hands, one shot, one kill.)
To: Cobra64
I tell the Gunnery Sergeant with the Indiana State police who told us that your thoughts next time I see him. He always said no matter ho loud the Bar fights was almost everyone heard that sound.
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posted on
01/08/2016 8:23:00 AM PST
by
Kartographer
("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
To: w1n1
I have one of those in the normal length variety. It’s a nice li’l shotgun.
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posted on
01/08/2016 8:37:55 AM PST
by
Kommodor
(Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
To: Cobra64
Truer words.
The sound of the slide may discourage somebody. But not nearly as much as the sound of the discharge.
To: w1n1
Kicks like a mule and no ejectors. Otherwise, dependable, hard-hitting.
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posted on
01/08/2016 8:58:16 AM PST
by
donozark
(There is no murder in paradise.)
To: Arm_Bears
For the proverbial scattergun standing on the corner, I prefer a hammer double with double triggers. The hammers (obviously) serve as a de-cocking mechanism, which means the gun can be stored loaded but with no unnecessary tension on any internal components. And they just as obviously provide visual indication of the gun's readiness to be fired. Inside the house, I load #8 buckshot in the right barrel and a 525-grain Brenneke slug in the left. The buckshot is for when I want limited (over?)penetration and the slug is for when I don't. Double triggers allow me to select the proper tool for the job on the spur of the moment, and a lifetime of upland game bird hunting with my granddad's LC Smith assures I'll never get the triggers confused. So my choice was the 'Hammer Coach' made by Huglu of Turkey for CZ.
Barrels are 20" so you could lop off a couple of inches and still not run afoul of NFA territory, but it's a slick and fast-handling smoothbore as is. It's spendier than the Stoeger but heft the two side-by-side and it is evident why. The ShayZed is an heirloom-quality firearm. All double-barrels, be they smoothbore or rifled, tend to be spendy because it is not an inexpensive proposition to join two barrels together such as they both shoot to the same point of aim. Even the plainest of double rifles, the sort that are standard equipment for African professional hunters who guide tourists in quest of dangerous game, are eye-poppingly expensive because the task of "registering" the twin barrels both to shoot to where the one set of sights is pointing requires considerable attention from a skilled double gunsmith. Some of the most masterful executions of the genre have been the 3-barreled "Dreilingsgewehr" survival guns built by Sauer for the Luftwaffe. Issued to pilots in the North African theater, the "Drilling," as it has become popularly known, has twin smoothbore barrels with a centerfire rifle barrel nestled underneath. One in good shape, with case and all accessories easily will fetch mid-five figures today, as much for its artistry as for its role in a dark period of history.
To: Paal Gulli
Great write up! You should do it for some of the shooters' magazines. You got the talent. I have a modern in expensive Chinese copy onto which I have drilled and tapped a couple of useful picatinny rails above and below.
BTW, unless you think you'll be facing a Kodiak Bear, the Foster slugs are as effective as the Brennecke at half the price.
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posted on
01/08/2016 10:17:28 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
To: Envisioning
I have a .12 gauge version and your right kicks like an army mule. Although I have an old sears bolt action .12 that kicks harder.
My buddy has a .20 gauge version I would like to have if he ever sells it.
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posted on
01/08/2016 10:23:57 AM PST
by
sarge83
To: Cobra64; Kartographer
Also, you can’t keep your aim on a target while racking a shotgun, or at least I can’t.
I tried.
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posted on
01/08/2016 10:30:14 AM PST
by
T-Bone Texan
(The economic collapse is imminent. Buy staple food and OTC meds now, before prices skyrocket.)
To: T-Bone Texan
With a pump you can quickly add shells to the tube, without taking the weapon out of act, at least I can.
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posted on
01/08/2016 10:32:42 AM PST
by
Kartographer
("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
To: T-Bone Texan
Sporting clays provides good practice at racking a shotgun while keeping it shouldered and on target.
Yeah ... I know ... the professionals use a double. That’s their business. I’m not there to compete with them. I’m there to practice shooting.
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posted on
01/08/2016 10:35:43 AM PST
by
NorthMountain
("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
To: T-Bone Texan
FWIW, I was also taught to work a bolt action rifle without taking it off shoulder. I find that much harder to do; practice helps.
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posted on
01/08/2016 10:38:22 AM PST
by
NorthMountain
("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
To: sarge83
I’ve got a set of them, both by J C Riggins, the Sears brand. One is a 16 gauge with a choke and the other is a 20 gauge. Both bolt actions. Freepmail me if you’re interested.
The stock on the 20 is cracked but it’s still functional.
L
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posted on
01/08/2016 10:43:13 AM PST
by
Lurker
(Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
To: Paal Gulli
Very happy with my mule ear Huglu sxs. Aquila mini-shell, shot and slug just fine for uninvited things that go bump in the night inside.
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posted on
01/08/2016 10:50:33 AM PST
by
Covenantor
(Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern - Chesterton)
To: w1n1
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posted on
01/08/2016 10:54:48 AM PST
by
Mike Darancette
(CA the sanctuary state for stupid.)
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