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I will not be tricked into supporting Carson over Trump.
1 posted on 11/07/2015 5:35:36 AM PST by jmaroneps37
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To: jmaroneps37

I agree. I suspect a lot of the postings on FR, blaming the media for Dr. Carson’s mis-statements, lack of concise description, whatever, is a motivated effort by the elite to keep Dr. Carson in the race long enough to keep Trump from securing the nomination.


2 posted on 11/07/2015 5:39:34 AM PST by grania
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I will not be tricked into supporting Carson over Trump.

Me neither. I believe the "Coach Analysis" of the rational for the MSM/Dems support of Carson is correct. They would love for him to be the nominee.

Plus, he is at this point sucking the wind from the Cruz, Trump and even the Rubio campaigns. And this from a candidate who has essentially no qualifications for the office except, to some apparently, a pleasing personality.

I think he will fade. His performance in the last debate was really pathetic and, from my point of view, wasn't much better in the first two.

3 posted on 11/07/2015 5:46:08 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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I didn’t support Carson before, and this certainly does not trigger any “rallying around” Carson sentiment for me. I still think this whole thing is tedious and overblown. Carson’s support of TPP overshadows this.

I think his insistence on having had murderous thoughts and corresponding actions as a teenager is creepy. For example, if I were wooing a girl, I would hide that to keep her from running from me. How is it that that is a plus when running for president and trying to woo the nation?

The media has been publishing lies about Trump and trying to take him down ever since he got in the race, and no one gets this outraged about it.


4 posted on 11/07/2015 5:46:26 AM PST by odawg
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We should rally around Carson, not because we should vote for him, but because of media lies. If we don’t defend Carson from the lies, because its more convenient to let him go because we support another candidate than noone will be around to defend against the lies against your favorite candidate - by then no-one will care because you certainly didn’t


7 posted on 11/07/2015 5:50:10 AM PST by 4rcane
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We must not defend a good man from the lying smears of a biased media onslaught. Because Trump.

God, Trump has really done irreparable damage to the once-principled conservative movement.

10 posted on 11/07/2015 5:54:38 AM PST by dead ("I'm up to my eyeball in virgin goats!" - Mullah Omar)
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I have known many medical school department chairmen, and many star surgeons, in my 40 year career.

Wrong skill set for the Presidency. Enough said.

However, I think the media interest in Carson doesn’t really envision him as President, or the nominee. The Uniparty-Infotainment axis merely needs a spike strip to slow down the Trump express before things get out of control, so that either little Marco can be inflated large enough to replace ¡Yeb! or they can convince Mitt to “save the party”.


11 posted on 11/07/2015 5:56:42 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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-- I will not be tricked into supporting Carson over Trump. --

The press is willfully misrepresenting support of Carson over Politico, as support of Carson for president.

That deflects the complaint against Politico, and by association, the rest of the press. It's a brazen misdirection, "if you don't support Politico's narrative, you are for Carson, period."

12 posted on 11/07/2015 5:57:04 AM PST by Cboldt
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I don’t mind defending Carson from outright lies. Trump can take care of himself.


14 posted on 11/07/2015 5:58:28 AM PST by syriacus
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I am a solid supporter of Trump and with the Lord’s help he will win...

But to have a person take another person down with pen and paper is lowing our American standards...there are better ways of making your point...and this was no different than a ‘tar and feathering’ of another human being...

We Americans have higher standards than that...


18 posted on 11/07/2015 6:01:47 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, and hope you do too!!!)
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“I will not be tricked into supporting Carson over Trump.”

I agree. Carson said or implied strongly enough (by saying he received a “full scholarship”) that he was ACCEPTED at West Point, which . The Politico ran the story saying he ATTENDED West Point...big difference, but BOTH WRONG, and in Carson’s case a flat-out lie - for Politico it was either a careless mistake or was said for some other reason. People simply do not “confuse” receiving a “full scholarship” to West Point with having a “conversation” with an admiral - and if someone actually did, they have no business in the White House.

The media, as they have proven over and over again and again, doesn’t mind getting caught in a lie, if it furthers their cause - they gave Dan Rather that huge award because his lies nearly stole the 2004 election from Bush-43.

So what’s going on here? Simple fear of Trump. Others have been taking bullets left and right to try to bring down Trump, so now Politico figured they’d give it try. So Politico, knowing that Trump will eventually key-in on Carson’s flat-out lie, goes after it first, and INTENTIONALLY MUFFS IT. Accomplishes two things, both good for Politico, the Democrats, and the GOPe. First, Carson’s flat-out lie is no longer an issue - it’s old news, off the table, and second, people leave Trump and rally to Carson, since the media smeared him. It certainly had that effect on Rush, and seems to be working here also.


19 posted on 11/07/2015 6:05:14 AM PST by BobL ( (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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coach is wrong

Showing support for a person being battered by a “journalist”, whatever the alleged journalist’s end game is, just shows I’ve had enough of the crap.


20 posted on 11/07/2015 6:13:46 AM PST by nevermorelenore
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Frankly, I regard the lying scumbags in the media to be the ultimate enemy, and we shouldn’t empower them, even if it might seem to go strategically for or against a preferred candidate. Their evil work and the harm they do spreads far beyond a single election.

Just like in that last debate, when Cruz finally turned the tables on the snarky, sarcastic questioning, and the whole group of candidates bandied together against the media... that shifted an entire dynamic. That’s where the power lies. The key to it all.


24 posted on 11/07/2015 6:20:40 AM PST by greene66
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They've already started


31 posted on 11/07/2015 6:31:58 AM PST by McGruff (Trump-Cruz 2016. Make America Great Again.)
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Take a seat on the bench, coach.

Most of us are smart enough to know the difference between
defending a Republican against a phony MSM onslaught and
supporting that candidate for office. If Trump was an
authentic confident LEADER he would be out front right
now defending Carson. That could be a boost to his image
and an improvement over the usual playground name calling
which Trump has allowed to define himself.


32 posted on 11/07/2015 6:33:15 AM PST by Sivad (NorCal red turf ;-)l)
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Team Hillary will have a field day with this.


37 posted on 11/07/2015 6:35:48 AM PST by McGruff (Trump-Cruz 2016. Make America Great Again.)
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Totally wrong. If you want Trump to win more than just the primary you had better start showing some respect to the other candidates. Their supporters are the people Trump (if he should win) will need to win over for the general election. If you make an enemy of 70% of republican voters not supporting Trump in the primary, you will have no chance at winning the general.

Besides, right and wrong are stand alone things. The liberal attack on Carson is just wrong.

Keep in mind, I have spent hours defending Trump yet I am not voting for him.


39 posted on 11/07/2015 6:40:07 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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How about we just ignore the media and don’t continue to play their game


43 posted on 11/07/2015 6:42:38 AM PST by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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Time to cut our losses with this “front runner.” He is a gaffe machine who may be having a problem with fabricating his life story, he may be a good Surgeon General, but after these incidents I’m starting to have doubts about that too.


47 posted on 11/07/2015 6:45:33 AM PST by erod (Chicago Conservative | Cruz or Lose!)
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I can’t see Carson getting the nomination. Things like supporting Obamatrade will cause him to implode.


48 posted on 11/07/2015 6:46:47 AM PST by Kenny (RED)
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As I stated as a reply to another post...

I will not rally round Carson. I don’t think that he has the skill set for the job. Period.

That being said, I also find it curious that his story changes and that incidents he references either have people long gone or people who do not want to be contacted. I’ve seen people who offer the ‘do you trust me or them’ and if it comes to blind trust, I’m on the ‘trust but verify’ side. Carson did state that he’d been offered a full scholarship. I saw the video where he made that statement. He did not hedge when he stated that as fact. Now he’s hedging. I’ve read the story about the attempt to stab someone at least two different ways. Apparently, he’s comfortable with telling the same story differently, with conflicting details. I’m not comfortable with reading that. I want someone to keep his story straight, especially if I’m considering voting for him. Is Carson’s mother still alive? Can she corroborate his wanting or trying to attack her with a hammer?

I tend to go with my gut instinct, and I’m getting bad vibes from Carson.

I will add to this post—Carson got himself into this mess by statement he made or wrote. He’s going to have to get himself out of it. I still won’t vote for him.


49 posted on 11/07/2015 6:46:58 AM PST by Marty
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