What a Putin Propaganda Bonanza if ISIS Took That Plane Down with American Weaponry...

Reaganite Republican ^ | 03 October 2015 | Reaganite Republican

[Reaganite Republican]

Interesting how they're now saying 'US satellite detects heat flash 
suggesting a bomb' -if you look at the video you can see the flash at 00:14 with your own eyes...
sure looks like it to me, seems to be blowing-out the top of the fuselage:

[video]

All 224 on-board were soon dead, scattered over 7 sq miles of desert less than 30 minutes after takeoff from Sharm-el-Shiekh. Most had been sucked-out of their seats at 31K feet. Odd sounds were heard in the cockpit, but no distress signal was ever sent. Internal technical problems and pilot error have been ruled out by the airline.

SOMEbody blew this thing up SOMEhow- but not necessarily with a 'bomb'.

Of course ISIS says they took the plane down -and issued the above video. They've also claimed to have done it with a missile.
Sinai branch of ISIS is supposedly on the verge of releasing a statement, but if they're smart they won't be telling us any more than they really need to..

Alas, it most certainly could have been hit by an advanced portable AA missile (rather than a bomb on-board) the kind the Egyptians said ISIS (in the Sinai) simply doesn't have. This seems to have become the leading theory in Moscow, they're now stating it was blown-apart by 'external' impact. The statement is significant, because they probably already also know if there were explosives involved by looking for residue on the little bits remaining.

Putin himself must think ISIS was behind it- he's already retaliating.

AND what if it does turn out to have been hit by an ISIS rocket- sure will be interesting when they deduce the country of origin, won't it. And what all did Hillary/CIA lose in Libya? 

Some may still doubt that ISIS had such sophisticated AA missiles -favoring the bomb theory. I would have leaned that way too in speculation,
but now the Russians say it was 'external'- meaning 'rocket' (or meteor), and after all it only took one...

[dforest]

Probably the reason the Creep Obama is sending specdial forces to Syria.

[Reaganite Republican]

***PING***

[knarf]

THERE ARE NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IN SYRIA ....STOP THIS NONSENSE !!!!

(Do I HAF'ta' ?)

[tanknetter]

Do Stingers, or any other MANPAD have the range to reach up to 31,000 feet?

[ImJustAnotherOkie]

Only to those with the IQ of a peanut. Ivan’s track record is pretty low after Ukraine.

[Liz]

What a Putin Propaganda Bonanza if ISIS Took That Plane Down with American Weaponry....

As FReeper Harley lady insightfully posted earlier WRT the State Dept's gun-running:

When Putin finds the arms that were sent from Venezuela to Benghazi to Syria to overthrow Assad, Putin should go to the Hague and demand they bring action against the Government of the United States...including every House and Senator and government official that was involved in this...

(And that goes for Obama and Hillary, as well.)

[Reaganite Republican]

I couldn’t agree more, but the “Americans destroyed the ME and I’m here to save you all from that” message re. Russians in Syria would be greatly aided by such a development

[Rodamala]

Like if we gave Germany the U-boat used to sink the Lusitania.

[BwanaNdege]

Do Stingers, or any other MANPAD have the range to reach up to 31,000 feet?

No.

General Dynamics / Raytheon FIM-92 Stinger Man-Portable, Air Defense Missile System

12,500ft max altitude (second paragraph above "Stinger Uses")

[Reaganite Republican]

I know Stinger FIM92 does high twenties

[kjam22]

Must have been an electrical short in the fuel tank.... like on TWA Flight 800.... you know....

[WhiskeyX]

The same intelligence report disclosing the observation of a flash of heat also said there was no heat trail that indicates the presence of a surface-to-air missile. The absence of a surface-to-air missile heat trail and the absence of the characteristic shrapnel pattern on the fuselage rules out a surface-to-air missile or any other type of missile as the cause of the aircraft’s disintegration. Whatever caused the aircraft to crash, it could not have been a missile.

[Navy Patriot]

What a Putin Propaganda Bonanza if ISIS Took That Plane Down with American Weaponry...

What a Putin Propaganda Bonanza if ISIS Took That Plane Down with any American involvement whatsoever...

[Reaganite Republican]

Another possibility:

“...SA-8 GECKO was used to down a cargo plane around Damascus by Syrian rebels last year which is highly mobile and has the range of 40,000 feet, well within distance of the reported height (36,000 ft).

http://therightscoop.com/heres-how-isis-could-have-shot-down-that-russian-airliner/

Something like this could have come from the US side, via the CIA Benghazi weapons bazaar... who knows what they were up to. And the Americans let a lot of Russian stuff go from Ghaddafi’s armory to the Islamists too... that’s on our, France, and UK’s hands.

[Buckeye Battle Cry]

That fact that somebody videotaped the plane exploding and going down says a great deal. They obviously knew it was going to get hit.

[WhiskeyX]

“I know Stinger FIM92 does high twenties”

The maximum altitude is only achievable from immediately below the target. Any launch point not immediately below the target adds to the distance to the target and reduces the maximum altitude the missile can achieve. The Stinger’s war head uses shrapnel to destroy the target. We have seen news photographs of the pieces of the aircraft. If the aircraft had been disintegrated by a missile strike, the pieces we see and the wreckage examined by the investigators would have unmistakable evidence of shrapnel holes and pieces of embedded shrapnel from the missile’s warhead. The absence of the shrapnel excludes missiles of all types as the cause of the disintegration of the Airbus.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

Creepy video. What’s with the music?

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

Still could have been a bomb.

[Reaganite Republican]

That’s the first thing I thought- but they need to get a real camera, I thought they were rich

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