Why a Fervent Cruz Supporter Should Lay-Off Trump -and Be Glad He's Still Around

Reaganite Republican ^ | 22 October 2015 | Reaganite Republican

[Reaganite Republican]

The worst thing is when I try to explain to somebody why it's good that Trump is still in the GOP primary race -even if it's at a perceived short-term cost to their own beloved candidate- and you get instant outrage and a condescending 'don't you now he's a charlatan?' - 'just look into his background' and 'not a real conservative' (gee whiz thanks, I'm dumber than Joe Biden's big toe and would surely just wander around in the dark without such illuminating input)...

The truth is that regardless of complex past and (perhaps) dubious credibility, Trump has proven a far more powerful political force than Ted Cruz has managed to become to this point, with 3x, 4x, even 5x the poll numbers. And a lot of people think Cruz will never rise far enough to win- I'm sure not one of those people, BUT you don't hear so many saying that about Trump any more, do you? Now that we're in the wake of his 100th day as GOP frontrunner, presidential candidate Donald Trump's already proven he's a force to be reckoned-with (even Chris Wallace said it).

We constitutional-conservatives attacking him on social media isn't going to bring Trump down... just let him rip, if half the GOP electorate want him
-and his support seems surprisingly resilient- there's not much you can say that's going to change that anyway, Trump's going to have to step in it himself. 

His record doesn't seem to matter to the 'Trump base'- they've heard it all before yet prefer to believe what he's saying right now, at least in contrast to (most of) his opponents.

In the meantime, Trump is landing a lot of shells in the enemies-of-liberty's camps... the Bush (crime) family, Rove, Fox News, all MSM, the Clintons, and the vile Obama regime.
He's also bringing-in minorities and 'Reagan Democrats'- Trump's the only one actually growing the GOP right now, it's true. 

There are plenty of Trump positions I don't like -Russia, Ukraine, Syria, entitlements, Planned Parenthood, large government constructions projects, etc-
but that's why I'm a Ted Cruz supporter (who's an ally of Trump's on a number of key issues).

As has been observed many times, Ted Cruz is well-positioned to gain from any Trump implosion -which will likely have to be self-induced, and major- 
and also seems to me the obvious choice for a Trump VP- the relationship certainly seems healthy enough. 

I'm one of those Cruz supporters that will back him until he wins or withdraws from the presidential campaign- but I sure wouldn't say Trump is holding him back or anything.
On the contrary, the Bush-Rove-Fox Axis-of-Sleazle was going after Cruz -whom the Jeb! camp apparently fears- with Fox News, WSJ, and other weapons until
Trump came in and crushed the Bush Machine like a damn bug. They might have destroyed Cruz by now if they hadn't to deal with The Donald all-up-in-their-grill while Jeb! crashed and burned.

It is certainly possible that Trump support could cool considerably, the election is still a long way off and his brash schtick might wear thin... but so far he's managing it very well
(and keeps coming up with new themes). I myself find him far more appealing and reasonable in direct TV interviews -i.e. Hannity- than Trump-on-the-stump, which is more like a monotonous pep-rally.

What Cruz does have is an elaborate plan that calls for a coming offensive... he's just lining up his ducks right now. Ted Cruz knows what he's doing, brining in tons of money,
and his poll numbers aren't bad- 'slow and steady' wins the game, I sure hope he's right.

As for Trump, why not follow the lead of Cruz, Levin, and Rush Limbaugh- appreciate The Donald for airing so many issues and smacking-down so many grating d*&%bags- lol.
Although I'm rooting for the other guy, I've enjoyed the fresh debate initiated by a great number of arguments, critiques, and specific proposals Trump has put out there.
As Rush noted recently, Donald Trump practically controls the political news cycle in this country- when's the last time you saw any Republican with that kind of mojo?

[Fantasywriter]

‘I’m dumber than Joe Biden’s big toe’

One of the best/funniest lines I’ve ever read in political commentary. More than compensates for your noun-verb disagreement two paragraphs down.

[Fantasywriter]

‘I’m sorry to have to say it but the Trump supporters are the angry ones, badmouthing any and all but their own.

The Cruz supporters for the most part have been deferential, especially to Trump.’

Good golly Miss bleeding Molly. You need to get out more...to put it mildly.

[Ouderkirk]

Yup. You’re exactly right. Enjoy Trump’s success and let Cruz do what he does. He’s not going after Trump and Trump isn’t going after him. They both are making it impossible for !Yeb to gain any traction. If nothing else we owe Trump our thanks for torpedoing !Yeb

[traderrob6]

Absolute horse hockey. All you have to do is read through the threads on this forum.

[traderrob6]

Absolute horse hockey. All you have to do is read through the threads on this forum.

[Boardwalk]

You are delusional. Haha

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Why do you want him as president?

What do you think he will do to help conservatism?

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Questions in comment #27 were for Trump supporters.

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Why do you want him as president?

What do you think he will do to help conservatism?

[traderrob6]

Good comeback.....Though I am going to take Mark Twains advice concerning arguing with a fool.

[TBP]

Rudy Giuliani can tell you that New York brash (we prefer to think of it as brass) doesn’t generally sell well west of the Hudson River.

[Agamemnon]

As has been observed many times, Ted Cruz is well-positioned to gain from any Trump implosion -which will likely have to be self-induced, and major- and also seems to me the obvious choice for a Trump VP- the relationship certainly seems healthy enough.

Trump is not going to implode. We praise his command of the media and political savvy which is unlike anything seen since Reagan and you continue with this nonsense that he'll step in his own stuff and slink off leaving Cruz to fill the gap?

I am a Cruz supporter and Trump is just the kind of bulldozer of leftist media garbage that the doctor ordered. Speaking of doctors I see Carson imploding, not Trump or Cruz.

I see Trump picking Cruz for VP, getting himself elected in a landslide (yes with all those Hispanics and Blacks too) and then after doing a wholesale garbage flush from every branch of the Executive Branch, stepping aside even as he did strategically with his own successful TV show, and hand the reigns to Cruz, who will now have an ability to build anew with a substantially slimmed down Federal government.

Remember, Trump doesn't need this job, and will be likely to be happy to vacate it without a hint of scandal, having paved the way for the pol who has been brave enough all along to spit in the eye of The Establishment. Trump hires the right people to get the job done. Trump respects Cruz and vice versa.

Maybe Trump would like to continue the influence be heading up the Council of Economic Advisers. JQ Adams, 6th President went back to the "lowly" House after being President, right? Not such a far-fetched thing to speculate about at all. He's already hired in his capable replacement. Now let's go beat up China and Mexico economically with the full force of the USA, and destroy all those who sold short on the US, never hoping or expecting that America could be Great AGAIN.

Maybe all the Palinistas might get to enjoy her being moved from head of Interior & Energy (now disemboweled by Trump & Sarah) to being appointed by Ted to fill his now vacant VP slot.

What a way to say thank you for helping him so much to get elected to the Senate back in 2010, no?

Yes, I can hear all the farts, burps, and guffaws from the perpetually pathologically depressed around here, but who said such people ever had an original thought about anything, or crawled out of their holes long enough to get behind a strategic plan they clearly never had any capability of envisioning?

FReegards!

[TBP]

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/10/21/behar-im-starting-to-warming-up-to-trump-he-agrees-with-bernie/

[TBP]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-contempt-for-the-free-market/2015/10/21/2f61d87c-7815-11e5-bc80-9091021aeb69_story.html?utm_content=buffer0a4d2&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

[TBP]

http://time.com/3962799/donald-trump-hillary-clinton/

[TBP]

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/102015-776560-trump-accuses-bush-of-knowing-about-911-attacks.htm?p=full

[TBP]

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425866/donald-trump-9-11-george-w-bush

[Jane Long]

Which alternate FR site do you typically go to? I’ve NEVER seen as much pure vitriol as I see, daily, from a hand full of Cruzettes (name they now have, that mirrors what they call Trump supporters), than I’ve seen, anywhere.

It’s to the point that it’s become sad. There’s nothing they can do about his low numbers, so they attack Trump supporters (names like progressives, Dem lite, etc.). Makes one wonder if they’re truly supporting Cruz, or just paid distractions.

[Jane Long]

You forgot to post these.....

That time Ted Cruz wrote a 16 page love letter to W Boosh...

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/that-time-ted-cruz-wrote-a-16-page-love-letter-to#.grwxqRgZyP

Or this....

Ted Cruz’s Path From George W. Bush Adviser to Immigration ...

....Cruz helped craft the campaign’s immigration policy, which called for speeding up the application process, increasing the number of work visas, and allowing the relatives of permanent residents to visit the U.S. while their applicants were pending. “Family values don’t stop at the Rio Grande,” Bush used to say....

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3284879/posts

[V K Lee]

Thank You!! RR Tis such a shame our country is so divided that FRiends tend to see cross eyed on this issue. Mr. T is the best thing to happen to the pubbie party in years. Seize the moment, hold on tightly, and run with it. He’s put himself in our hands. I suggest we use the tool wisely and pronto. Perhaps, with time the milquetoast pubbies might learn a few lessons from him and what it takes to win the game.....not that politics is a game -IT IS a matter of LIFE Thank you, once again, Mr. T. Keep on truckin’

[Duchess47]

“Why do you want him as president?

What do you think he will do to help conservatism?”

I want my country back.

This country was founded by radicals, not conservatives. They wanted freedom, small, limited government. Capitalism, isolationists, individualism.

Conservative has come to mean here “support Ted Cruz”. It used to mean supporting traditional values, norms, moderation, caution. All well and good but I believe at this point in our country’s history we need radicals.

I don’t know that I would call Ted Cruz a conservative, more of a constitutionist I think. Just my opinion.