Why a Fervent Cruz Supporter Should Lay-Off Trump -and Be Glad He's Still Around

Reaganite Republican ^ | 22 October 2015 | Reaganite Republican

[Reaganite Republican]

The worst thing is when I try to explain to somebody why it's good that Trump is still in the GOP primary race -even if it's at a perceived short-term cost to their own beloved candidate- and you get instant outrage and a condescending 'don't you now he's a charlatan?' - 'just look into his background' and 'not a real conservative' (gee whiz thanks, I'm dumber than Joe Biden's big toe and would surely just wander around in the dark without such illuminating input)...

The truth is that regardless of complex past and (perhaps) dubious credibility, Trump has proven a far more powerful political force than Ted Cruz has managed to become to this point, with 3x, 4x, even 5x the poll numbers. And a lot of people think Cruz will never rise far enough to win- I'm sure not one of those people, BUT you don't hear so many saying that about Trump any more, do you? Now that we're in the wake of his 100th day as GOP frontrunner, presidential candidate Donald Trump's already proven he's a force to be reckoned-with (even Chris Wallace said it).

We constitutional-conservatives attacking him on social media isn't going to bring Trump down... just let him rip, if half the GOP electorate want him
-and his support seems surprisingly resilient- there's not much you can say that's going to change that anyway, Trump's going to have to step in it himself. 

His record doesn't seem to matter to the 'Trump base'- they've heard it all before yet prefer to believe what he's saying right now, at least in contrast to (most of) his opponents.

In the meantime, Trump is landing a lot of shells in the enemies-of-liberty's camps... the Bush (crime) family, Rove, Fox News, all MSM, the Clintons, and the vile Obama regime.
He's also bringing-in minorities and 'Reagan Democrats'- Trump's the only one actually growing the GOP right now, it's true. 

There are plenty of Trump positions I don't like -Russia, Ukraine, Syria, entitlements, Planned Parenthood, large government constructions projects, etc-
but that's why I'm a Ted Cruz supporter (who's an ally of Trump's on a number of key issues).

As has been observed many times, Ted Cruz is well-positioned to gain from any Trump implosion -which will likely have to be self-induced, and major- 
and also seems to me the obvious choice for a Trump VP- the relationship certainly seems healthy enough. 

I'm one of those Cruz supporters that will back him until he wins or withdraws from the presidential campaign- but I sure wouldn't say Trump is holding him back or anything.
On the contrary, the Bush-Rove-Fox Axis-of-Sleazle was going after Cruz -whom the Jeb! camp apparently fears- with Fox News, WSJ, and other weapons until
Trump came in and crushed the Bush Machine like a damn bug. They might have destroyed Cruz by now if they hadn't to deal with The Donald all-up-in-their-grill while Jeb! crashed and burned.

It is certainly possible that Trump support could cool considerably, the election is still a long way off and his brash schtick might wear thin... but so far he's managing it very well
(and keeps coming up with new themes). I myself find him far more appealing and reasonable in direct TV interviews -i.e. Hannity- than Trump-on-the-stump, which is more like a monotonous pep-rally.

What Cruz does have is an elaborate plan that calls for a coming offensive... he's just lining up his ducks right now. Ted Cruz knows what he's doing, brining in tons of money,
and his poll numbers aren't bad- 'slow and steady' wins the game, I sure hope he's right.

As for Trump, why not follow the lead of Cruz, Levin, and Rush Limbaugh- appreciate The Donald for airing so many issues and smacking-down so many grating d*&%bags- lol.
Although I'm rooting for the other guy, I've enjoyed the fresh debate initiated by a great number of arguments, critiques, and specific proposals Trump has put out there.
As Rush noted recently, Donald Trump practically controls the political news cycle in this country- when's the last time you saw any Republican with that kind of mojo?

[Reaganite Republican]

***PING***

[Dr. Sivana]

Great post.

[Reaganite Republican]

Thanks Doc

[jsanders2001]

If it means voting for Trump to hear him say, “you’re fired” to all the Muslim infiltraitors in our administration and see a wall built across the southern border I’d vote for him in a New York minute if it didn’t look like Cruz has a chance of winning. I’m willing to do whatever means tit takes o oust all the traitors in Washingom even if it means switching my personal presidential pick.

[wastoute]

What I have been saying from the beginning. Message to GOPe: Get behind Cruz BIG or get a Trump up the rump.

[Reaganite Republican]

That’s a great way of looking at it...

[Boardwalk]

This will be lost on the TDS posters here as they just want the attention. It’s amazing how much the trolls get fed here. They are fat and happy trolls.

[haywoodwebb]

Pretty much sums up the way I've been looking at this so far...

Well said!

[Mr. K]

I would actually prefer Cruz to Trump but Trump is bringing out the crowds in a way Cruz can’t.

My ideal ticket now is Trump/Cruz which will have liberals’ heads exploding.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

I’ll say one thing for Trump, he will get more votes than Ross Perot received.

[rawcatslyentist]

If it weren't for Don, we'd be drowning in the liberal pablum of a DNC controlled candy date just like all the past elections.

Of course he's Perot 2.0! It's how Billy Jeff snuck in, and his partner in crime is attempting to replicate that same play book.

[Reaganite Republican]

That is how I look at it- Trump is drawing huge crowds, how can you not want to harness that somehow, with or without Trump himself in the end

[Nervous Tick]

Good points, although many of us fervent Cruz supporters figured this out months ago. :-)

[trebb]

Thanks for laying it out in words many of us have been groping for...

Now for a short public service announcement:

GO CRUZ!! Keep it up Trump!!

Donate to Cruz

Donate to FR

[traderrob6]

I’m sorry to have to say it but the Trump supporters are the angry ones, badmouthing any and all but their own.

The Cruz supporters for the most part have been deferential, especially to Trump.

[VanDeKoik]

I think many on the Cruz side should stop seeing Trump as a means to an end. He isn’t running to lose at some point so that Ted can collect his votes. And if he can wreck the GOPe so effortlessly, then all of the overplanning on Cruz’s part will look like a tidal wave hitting a dam made of matchsticks when Trump turns his juggernaut on the individual early primary states.

[CottonBall]

“I’m sorry to have to say it but the Trump supporters are the angry ones, badmouthing any and all but their own.
The Cruz supporters for the most part have been deferential, especially to Trump.”

You’ve got to be kidding!

There are rapid Cruz supporters on every Trump thread, calling Trump supporters names and acting just like irrational liberals.

While the Trump supporters just sit and take it, for the most part.

It’s exactly were opposite of what you state. In fact, most Trump supporters i see wish for a Trump/Cruz ticket. While Cruz supporters are spilled with hatred for the Donald, they can’t think straight.

[RGF]

EXACTLY. Saw Trump last night and he had 10-15 times the folks at the Cruz rally. I like Trump to go to D.C., kick some living a@@ and then turn it over to Ted to fine tune. They could fix a lot of ills in 16 years.

And it would be fun to watch the RINOs and the other libtards heads explode.

[Alas Babylon!]

In your headline you say, in part:

Trump -and Be Glad He's Still Around

The implication, of course, is Trump will "stick around" for the betterment of Cruz and eventually Cruz with either beat Trump outright or Trump will quit.

That ain't gonna happen.

Trump is in it for all the marbles, and my gut tells me he'll be President in January, 2017.

I say this neither as a Trump supporter or opponent, nor a Cruz supporter nor an opponent.

BUT...

Trump isn't going to quit or be over voted by Cruz.