Disarm: Defender Shot with High Point Carbine

Gun Watch | 11 September, 2015 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

This High Point Carbine was taken from a home defender in Arizona.

Long guns offer a lot of advantages as defensive arms.  They are easier to hit with, offer increased practical ranges, and can have more power and deterrent value.  They have disadvantages;  it is easier to take a long gun from a person than it is to take a handgun.  Disarms of armed defenders are rare.  Cases where the disarmed defender is shot with their own gun, much rarer.  It happened in Arizona a week ago.  From trivalleycentral.com:

APACHE JUNCTION — Pinal County authorities say an Apache Junction-area man was shot and wounded with his own gun after he went to investigate noises in his backyard and was disarmed during a scuffle with an intruder.

The Sheriff’s Office says the 31-year-old man is expected to survive the thigh wound he suffered early Thursday morning.

It is difficult to take a handgun without being shot, especially a small handgun.  There is not much to grab, and the handgun can be kept close to the body.   The other hand can fend off the disarm attempt while the weapon hand is used to shoot the attacker.

Long guns offer much more to grab, and leverage to rip them from the holders hands.  A defender recently took a shotgun from an attacker in North Carolina.    From wral.com:

Bryant, 49, wrestled a shotgun away from one of the intruders and shot one of them, Peterkin said.

The primary defenses to a disarm are to not allow the attacker to get close;  guard the weapon hand, and a willingness to shoot.   Use of the firearm as an impact weapon is fairly common, with the risk of a disabled or damaged firearm.  Do not hold a pistol or a long gun muzzle ahead of you as you approach a corner.  It is an invitation for someone on the other side to grab it.

Realize that someone who is willing to attempt a disarm is a deadly threat.

Disarms are a dangerous tactic, to be used when the alternative is worse.  Assess the situation, and if a disarm is called for, do not hold back, take the opportunity and go all out.

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[marktwain]

Once an assailant gets close, it is easier to take a long gun than a short gun.

[NonValueAdded]

Therefore, carry both!

[LadyBuck]

Trying to visualize your suggestion. Not seeing it.

[edpc]

That’s true. Most of my long guns aren’t as easily accessible, either. I don’t know if the owner had no other options for defense. The nice thing about these carbines is you can get a little better ballistic performance with 9mm and .45 ACP ammo - especially the +P.

[Joe 6-pack]

A good tactical sling will really cut down on the chances of you being separated from your longarm.

[cuban leaf]

If you remember one thing about gun defense, it’s that you keep a good distance from thperson at which your weapon is pointed, you verbally warn them to not come closer and you shoot the torso if they ignore your warning.

I.e.you NEVER let them get within their body height without shooting to kill.

[LadyBuck]

Going outside to investigate noises alone was probably not a good idea, also.

[going hot]

Going outside alone invites ambush with an accomplice.

[NonValueAdded]

You investigate the noise with your long gun, preferably a 12 gauge short barrel, but with your holstered, chambered hand gun. Should the perp try to wrestle the long gun, you release one hand, draw, and send the perp straight to hell. It should be a practiced move.

“I don’t want to die for lack of shooting.”

[mountn man]

Once an assailant gets close, it is easier to take a long gun than a short gun.

Tell that to Victor Marx

[trisham]

Wow. That’s amazing.

[Lazamataz]

Fortunately, I have a Glock surgically implanted in my forehead.

Blinking the left eye fires it, and blinking the right eye drops the magazine.

Blinking both eyes? Don't ask.

[LadyBuck]

Afraid to ask about re-loading procedures...

[Tijeras_Slim]

It’s probably some sort of Pez dispenser variant.

[Lazamataz]

See below your post.

[Tijeras_Slim]

High capacity eh?

[LadyBuck]

Seems pretty complicated and sounds like something from a movie, but if that works for you, great. Really I’m glad you have a plan, since we all should. I know that would never work for me/my family.

Around here, we have a multi-layered strategy. Practiced often, adjusted and tested. And then we drill it.

Ever mindful that what works for my crew wouldn’t neccessarily work for you.

Stay safe!

[Lazamataz]

At first, I could only handle 7 round (NY SAFE ACT) magazines.

Butt now I'm up to C-BETA magazines.

Oh God. I just realized what that looks like.

I might be gun-queer.

[Farmer Dean]

It worked because the perps were doing it all wrong.