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ME: Man Shoots Burglar with "Vintage" Revolver, 7mm?
Gun Watch ^ | 2 September, 2015 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 09/03/2015 5:26:58 AM PDT by marktwain


A 67-Year-Old disabled Rockland Maine man was tired of being burglarized and his medications stolen.   He described himself as a "walking drugstore".   He purchased what the reporter described as a vintage gun.   Harvey said "I bought a gun. Best thing I ever did."

On August 25, Harvey Lembo was on the phone to police when he shot the burglary suspect.  Pistols are handy when one hand is employed on another critical task.


The suspect broke in; made a wrong move, and was shot.   The story says the gun was a 7mm, and that it was under the Mr. Lembow's pillow.  Presumably, it was a pistol.

I only know of one moderately common 7mm pistol, the Japanese Nambu.  Cartridges for it are collector's items, and quite rare.  7mm pinfires are even rarer.   Maybe it was a 7.62 caliber.  7.62 or 7.65 pistols and ammunition are common.   From thepressherald.com:
Lembo said he had bought the vintage gun on Monday. He had lamented to a friend that he was tired of having his apartment burglarized – five times in six years, he said, the most recent being two weeks ago.

(snip)

Lembo turned and fired, putting a 7 mm slug in the suspect’s shoulder as he fled.

Another story says that the pistol was a 7mm Russian revolver.  From the bangordailynews:
He said he purchased a 7 mm Russian-made revolver Monday but declined to say where he acquired it. He said he bought it because he was concerned he would continue to be the target of criminals looking to steal his prescribed medications.
Now all becomes clear.  The revolver is almost certainly a Russian Nagant.  I have a few.  They are an interesting mechanical device, and large numbers were imported and sold for low prices.  They work, but are a little slow to reload, and the ammo is pricey.

If all you need it for is shooting the occasional burglar, it appears to be enough.


 Nagants from the author's collection.  The one on the lower left is a Swede that was converted to .22 LR for importation into the U.S.  Some of the Russians were converted to 7.65 x 17, and a small number to 7.62 x 25, but most of the Russian revolvers still shoot the original cartridge, the Nagant 7.62 x 38R.  The Fiocci ammunition is likely the best for self defense.

Most of the Nagants imported to the United States were made before and during WWII.  The Russians refurbished them at Soviet arsenals; the ones I have seen were in good condition.  A few were made before WWI.   They all are likely to remain useful and reliable for another hundred years.

©2015 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice and link are included.  Link to Gun Watch


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; lembo; me; nagant
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Well made revolvers are reliable for enourmous numbers of moderate powered rounds. A good friend kept meticulous records on the first revolver he owned, an H&R 922. It is a "pull pin" design. The cylinder is removed to load it. He fired over 200,000 .22 cartridges through it before it needed repair.

He is a lifetime master NRA pistol competitor, and is now 81. He uses a Smith Model 41 for most of his competition shooting, but he has a soft spot for the old 922.

Maine has a very strong castle doctrine law. Police have charged the wounded burglar, but not Lembo.

1 posted on 09/03/2015 5:26:58 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Not fond of Soviet guns, you always have to check the muzzle for neck hairs.


2 posted on 09/03/2015 5:31:59 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: marktwain

Only ‘sad’ part is that the taxpayers will be caring for the ‘victim’ for many years - probably even get Soc Sec Disability for his ‘damaged’ shoulder which will probably NEVER go down while ours (those that loyally let the Government ‘fleece’ us for lo those many years) may.

May be more fun but it is better to bring the slug out of a corpse than a live, squirming thief. Unless no pain killers involved...(only to dream)

This incident brings to mind the great line..

‘A pistol is like a parachute - chances are you will never need either but damn sure handy to have around if you do’.


3 posted on 09/03/2015 5:35:08 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"I could agree with you-Then we both would be wrong!!)
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To: marktwain

“Smith Model 41 for most of his competition shooting, but he has a soft spot for the old 922. “

The 41 is a wonderful pistol.


4 posted on 09/03/2015 5:36:17 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: marktwain

That’s Mungo Jerry!


5 posted on 09/03/2015 5:37:27 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: headstamp 2

The 41 has a superb trigger... selling mine is near the top of my “Gun Regret List”.


6 posted on 09/03/2015 5:37:47 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: marktwain

Is that Lembo, or Fidel Castro? Anyway, good on him for good shooting.

.32 H&R Magnum is said to work well in the Nagant revolver. That’s what is in mine but I haven’t fired it yet.

(I would kill for a set of those red phenolic grips! Just kidding.)


7 posted on 09/03/2015 5:39:12 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Oh no.

You can’t touch them nowadays.


8 posted on 09/03/2015 5:41:07 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: headstamp 2

Nope... not for what they want nowdays.


9 posted on 09/03/2015 5:42:41 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

? What’s that....execution?


10 posted on 09/03/2015 5:47:50 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

Just sayin’... potential bad karma to buy NKVD surplus.


11 posted on 09/03/2015 5:50:45 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I’ve handled a few in the past couple of years but they had extreme use from target shooting. Paying top dollar and then sending it back to the factory for a complete rebuild isn’t very appealing.


12 posted on 09/03/2015 5:53:56 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: headstamp 2

If I want to get back to target shooting (not likely given my eyes want longer arms to see the front sight), I’ll slick up a Ruger MK II and it will be way better than my abilities.


13 posted on 09/03/2015 5:57:43 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: marktwain

Yes but but but Mister Lembo don’t you know that guns in homes always only lead to the death of the home owner?


14 posted on 09/03/2015 6:00:27 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

he is now in trouble with the landlord as he lives in a corporate owned subsidized apartment that bands firearms.


15 posted on 09/03/2015 6:03:06 AM PDT by orionrising
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To: elcid1970

“.32 H&R Magnum is said to work well in the Nagant revolver. That’s what is in mine but I haven’t fired it yet.”

It will likely work, but the cases will have considerable swell at the rear. The 7.62 x 38R has a fair amount of taper to it. Of course, with the .32 mag, the “gas seal” part of the Nagant action will be inoperable. Sometimes the rim of a .32 mag will be small enough to move into the chamber of the Nagant, preventing positive ignition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62%C3%9738mmR


16 posted on 09/03/2015 6:04:19 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: elcid1970

There is a cylinder made for the .32’s, not the same as for 7.62. The rounds are not interchangeable. Be careful.


17 posted on 09/03/2015 6:12:04 AM PDT by jstaff
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To: orionrising

I live in Maine and this man’s story was on the local TV news and was a topic on a talk radio station here in Maine this morning.

His low income subsidized apartment bans firearms. (How is that not unconstitutional?)

People are trying to help him. Someone even suggested a “Go Fund Me” page in order to help him move to a better apartment.


18 posted on 09/03/2015 6:14:55 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Liberals are like the Taliban and ISIS....destroying cultural icons they don't like.)
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To: marktwain

Harvey won’t be getting it back. his apartment lease has a no guns on property clause.

Apartment rules may disarm Rockland man who shot intruder

http://www.pressherald.com/2015/09/02/rockland-man-shot-during-break-in-to-make-first-court-appearance-today/

Rockland tenant who shot intruder told to give up gun

http://bangordailynews.com/2015/09/02/news/midcoast/rockland-tenant-who-shot-intruder-told-to-give-up-gun/


19 posted on 09/03/2015 6:17:46 AM PDT by mainevet (Get an M1911 or two or three or four)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

While interesting info about the “Vintage” revolver, the important part is the gun worked for what it was intended, to stop the old timer from being robbed.

Good ending (thus far). Hope that Maine does not decide to prosecute him for skirting the law.


20 posted on 09/03/2015 6:21:07 AM PDT by DaveA37
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