Posted on 08/10/2015 6:14:20 AM PDT by libertarian neocon
Last night, instead of focusing on True Detective, I ended up getting into a bit of a flame war on Twitter with some Donald Trump supporters. Oh my, those people have no clue and you really couldn't pin them down on anything. Ask a simple question like "how do you know Trump will govern as a conservative?" and the responses you get are "do your homework", "you're not very bright are you" and "Trump/Cruz is the only hope for this country". The last is would only be true if your hope is for a historic route of the Republican Party. Even with his sky high GOP poll numbers and near 100% name recognition, Trump trails Hillary in election matchups by 15% according to RCP. Cruz, who used to be though of as a bomb thrower but next to Trump looks calm and diplomatic, is behind Hillary by almost 8 points (though I'm not meaning this post to criticize Cruz, he is actually the Republican I agree most with, I just know I wouldn't be able to get elected either). After all, I know that Trump wants to outdo Mitt Romney but I don't think that offending more than 47% of the population is the right goal to have. Between his "blood" comments and his comments with regards to hispanics, he has offended at least 60% of the population. Also you have to wonder whether in the minds of these people if a Cruz/Paul or Fiorina/Rubio ticket would mean the end of this country as we know it?
Another question is do Trump supporters have any idea who Trump really is or are they just so caught up in the cult of personality that they would kill Sharon Tate if he asked them to. All the Trump supporters I was arguing with last night had "Jesus", "God" or "Christian" in their descriptions, which I find rather surprising. Can you think of a GOP candidate who is more the opposite of what Jesus represents than Donald Trump? He is foul-mouthed, thin-skinned, unforgiving and probably has committed adultery in every single one of his marriages multiple times. He would never die for your sins given he won't even admit the ones he makes himself! He's also said that he has never asked God for forgiveness.
Also, every single person had the word "conservative" in their description as well. Trump left the GOP in 1999 to join the Reform Party and did so poorly in their primary that he came in behind Pat Buchanan and John Hagelin, the meditation guru. Did he go back to the Republican Party then? Nope, he became a Democrat! That means that he looked at people like Al Gore, John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi and thought, eh, they're a pretty good lot, I'm going with them. He only became a Republican 5 years ago! Other than building a giant wall with Mexico, can you be certain of anything that he will do? My guess is that he would try to usurp as much power for the executive as possible, even more than Obama and then use government power to its limit. Think Juan Peron with a horrible haircut.
Trump and his supporters really give the GOP a bad name.
>> Reagan only became a Republican 3 years before his first run for governor <<
Good point. It tells me that DT needs to run for Governor of New York before he tries for POTUS.
Good analogy. Spot on. Fear the "Wacko Birds"!
Address what I said, not what you assume.
Yeah, that's just like all those people who said that Cruz should stay in the Senate until he gets some more experience.
My posting history would disagree with you, but don’t worry about it. We’ll be strangers.
Like pulling stuff out of your ass eh?
The very best of strangers, too. :)
When did he say he hates immigrants ?
Just the facts, please.
Let’s take inventory, shall we?
Libertarian: Atheistic, faggot loving, baby killing, dopesmoking truther.
Neocon: jingoistic adventurer abroad, starting wars with NO intention of winning them.
You’re the absolute worst of both worlds.
Now, tell me again why I should even listen to you, let alone side with you?
Apologies if this got posted already but I dont think it went through. Anyway here is my response:
“Libertarian: Atheistic, faggot loving, baby killing, dopesmoking truther.
Neocon: jingoistic adventurer abroad, starting wars with NO intention of winning them.”
Just like there are different types of Republicans, there are different types of libertarians and neocons. I am a libertarian who believes in God, am pro-Life and think radical islam is a great danger to western civilization (love the Andrew McCarthy books).
On the neocon thing, I dont want to be galavanting around the globe and oppose going into Syria. That said, I am hawkish on Iran though I want to avoid troops on the ground (the mountainous terrain would be a nightmare) but would rather just help Israel do it
How strange- how the faithful followers of Hillary and Trump are alike in so many ways. How dare anyone one dare to speak unkindly about their chosen demigod. Those who oppose their candidate are stupid and/or evil.
Why single me out? Everyone else is calling him a pimp as well. I’ll amend it to please you: he’s not a blog pimp just an extremely bad writer.
Wow, when did he crotch grab? Express hatred of immigrants? He only expressed an anger towards “just the evil ones Obama keeps importing (mostly legally).” Maybe you better read the news more closely.
the one thing Trump brings above all else.. he not in bed with any of the GOPe...when you organization is corrupt like the GOPe has prove, you have to go as far outside of it as possible to find a champion
That Trump makes all the “right” people scream in pain...is what make him so appealing
You forgot, that we are RINO shills on the payroll of the Bushes or the RNC...
Yeah, I don’t get that either. And, there are lot of people on FR who say it. I guess like global warming, once there’s a consensus, it becomes a settled fact.
Of course he won’t win if a good portion of the electorate says he won’t win and doesn’t support him.
I just don’t get it.
“...She is pretty generic Republican ideology wise”
And, why on earth would we want another generic Republican? You might want to check out how she actually ranks: https://www.conservativereview.com/2016-presidential-candidates
“...and gives a pretty good speech.”
I’ve read the same about our current president (damn, that’s (president) hard to write!). The clean, articulate one.
“...I know she has weaknesses but they all do.”
Why, yes, she does. Mostly in that she’s not even close to conservative. I have to admit, she presents very, very well. She’s quick, articulate and well informed. She would make an awesome press secretary. But no way could those positives overcome her lack of other positives.
Trump is doing major gentital grabbing chimp behavior.
Trump is a leftist populist who wants more government. Illegals are illegal and are not our major immigration problem...all that needs to be done with them is enforce the existing laws, which Obama has prevented. But Trump has never attacked Obama’s legal immigration policy, which has taken from the LatinAmerican quota to give it to “people from Muslim lands.” This is why the Chechen tsarnaevs were legal, although one of them had overstayed his visa, and they were receiving welfare, free college educations, and everything you could want thanks to Obama. I’ve never heard a peep from the bloviating Trump on this.
Maybe people should take a closer look at what he is saying...although actually it’s pretty content-free, and he’s relying on his schtick to carry him past any questions.
Be gone, FRiend!
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