Posted on 06/06/2015 5:35:50 PM PDT by concernedcitizen76
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said Saturday it “boggles the mind” that the White House has not yet released the text of trade deal it’s pushing, known as the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).
“It kind of boggles the mind,” Paul said in an interview with Breitbart News. “Who’s in charge of the administration that decides to keep a trade treaty secret? To keep it classified makes no sense at all.”
Paul said the administration should immediately release the text of the trade deal so members of the Senate can decide how to vote later on.
The Senate recently voted to fast-track the trade deal, which would allow an up-or-down vote on it. House GOP leaders could hold the fast-track vote as early as next week despite opposition from groups in both parties.
“To me, it’s kind of you put the cart before the horse to give the permission to do something you haven’t seen,” Paul said. “They claim you’ll get to see it, again but you’ll only get an up-or-down vote with no amendments. Also, they get rid of some of the rules on — I guess it’s not, you can’t filibuster it either. It passes with a simple majority.”
Paul explained he has proposed legislation that would require the Senate to wait one day before a vote is held for every 20 pages of legislation.
“So 800-page legislation [like Obamatrade] would wait 40 days. You’d wait 40 days so we’d have adequate time to read it. Yeah, I’m a believer that we should read legislation before we vote on it.”
Last month, Secretary of State John Kerry said the final text of the trade deal would be made public at a minimum of 60 days before President Obama would sign it.
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Are we living in Stalin's USSR? Apparently, so. The "Just Trust Us" bit doesn't go anymore if it ever did. They're too many rats in that town crowding to be fed.
Any politician who doesn't push for the text of this bill to be made public well before a vote is taken doesn't qualify as a representative of the people nor their state. There's no excuse good enough to justify this cremation of the constitutional process and wholesale ceding of authority by the legislature to the executive.
A big bump to Rand Paul on this.
The bill might be perfectly fine, in which case why hide it?
The bill may be a complete mess. I suspect the latter.
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Rand Paul is right about this, also. He was right about the 4th amendment. He’s right about this. That’s two items.
For those who parse things, I’ve not just endorsed Rand Paul for president or even dog catcher.
In addition to releasing this bill, there should be a ‘legislative limitation act’ that simply says no legislation shall exceed 2200 WORDS. The US Constitution, I’m told, has 4400.
Good for Rand Paul!
“The most transparent administration in history”...what a crock of whichever smelly substance you prefer...
Exactly - way to go Mr. Paul.
Where is everyone else on this? Is anyone else outraged? Is anyone other than Paul standing up to this secretive nonsense? I hope so. The entire Congress should be up in arms.
But since passing 0Care without reading it AND allowing it to be unilaterally amended several times, I wouldn’t hold out much hope this time will be any different.
Why was it again so important to send a Republican majority to Congress in November?
Again, he has the guts to upset the establishment of both parties and is willing to take their wrath.
(chanting to myself: I won’t get fooled again. I won’t get fooled again. I won’t get fooled again. I won’t get fooled again.)
Who wants it kept secret and why do they want it kept secret?
I will guess there are NWO and Agenda 21ish provisions in it that give the UN overreaching powers and o wrsight of it
I will guess there are NWO and Agenda 21ish provisions in it that give the UN overreaching powers and oversight of it
Good question. How bad this treaty has been dribbling out thanks to Wikileaks. Here’s one quick analysis from Anonymous Conservative. I’ve also seen persistent reports the TPP will allow Obama to do an end run on immigration no matter our courts or Congress.
Trans-Pacific Partnership Provisions to be Kept Secret for Four Years After Passage?
Posted on June 4, 2015
by Anonymous Conservative
Wikileaks got a copy of the super-secret TPP. Of the 29 sections, only 5 will relate to trade. The part they released details how it will allow foreign companies to sue governments to win monetary judgments over damage to “expected profits,” using a secret tribunal run by either the World Bank or the UN, that will override all national courts. These judgments will be decided in secret, and will force the losing government to take money from its citizens and give it to the corporation to pay off the judgment.
So a foreign company that thinks a US law damaged its expected profits can sue, and US citizens will have to pay it damages. It would be bad enough if the judgments were honest, but clearly the connected will stack the courts, and then be able to sue over anything, and just be awarded judgments.
Even better, supposedly provisions of the TPP will not only be secret up until the vote, but they will be kept secret for four years after its passing.
The corruption has gone past the point of no return. It is to the point that the collapse will be merciful.
I agree with Rand on this.
Publish it, let the citizens read it, and let the politicians who are pushing it defend it.
Enough with this secret legislation/treaty business.
There are 12 countries negotiating the TPP. None of them have released the text for the simple reason that it's still in flux. There's no way any nation could negotiate this in public. Once the 12 countries have agreed congress will have 2 months to review the final deal before they vote.
Barry, VJ and their globalist puppet masters for starters I guess. This thing is a freakin’ nightmare, FAR more than just ‘trade’ according to some of the bits and pieces leaked so far. The damn UN and their gun control ‘big push’ is said to be in this also. The fact that we have our ‘own’ guys supporting this AND supporting the Kenyan muslim boy Barry’s desire to get this through is sickening. Bottom line.....ANYTHING Barry wants in is a bad deal for America. We all KNOW that! So why are our own guys helping this muslim brotherhood tool with his plans?
Then why vote on it now. Wait till the negotiations are finished. Bring TPP before Congress for debate and then vote on it as treaty requiring the 2/3 majority of the Senate.
If Obama wants it, and he does wants it real bad—just like Obamacare—how could TPP be any good for America? It’s impossible. Obama supports everything that destroys liberty, Bill of Rights, state and individual sovereignty, economic freedom and empowers the Big Brother/Stasi state. Obamacare, Patriot Act, Blackmail, NSA spying data mining, IRS, executive orders trashing the Second Amendment, there’s no end to that guy’s hatred of the America we knew. If Obama is for TPP, it must be real bad.
The heroic Senator Sessions weighed in on giving Obama fast track for TPP:
“Under fast-track, Congress transfers its authority to the executive and agrees to give up several of its most basic powers.
“These concessions include: the power to write legislation, the power to amend legislation, the power to fully consider legislation on the floor, the power to keep debate open until Senate cloture is invoked, and the constitutional requirement that treaties receive a two-thirds vote.
“The latter is especially important since, having been to the closed room to review the secret text of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, it is clear it more closely resembles a treaty than a trade deal.
“In other words, through fast-track, Congress would be pre-clearing a political and economic union before a word of that arrangement has been made available to a single private citizen.”
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