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To: KarlInOhio; Josh Painter
was never quite clear during the Obama birth certificate hunt whether there were two types of citzenship, natural born and naturalized, or if there was a third type of citizenship at birth which wasn't natual born for some reason. Since the exact term "natural born" only applied to the requiremnents for president and vice president I had seen no statute which clearly defined it. That 1790 law comes as close as I have seen and makes it pretty clear that natural born and citizen at birth are the same and there are only two types of citizenship.

A very true and accurate summary of the confusion that reigned during those debates. It also didn't help matters that there were Birth Certificate questions running parallel with the argumentation above. It all made it a confused mess.

I too feel grateful for this post. The portion in bold you explained is indeed the critical portion that kept the, shall we call them "ONBC deniers" (for Obama Natural Born Citizen) going. This is in contrast to, say, the "BC deniers" (Birth Certificate deniers" the arguments of which are not affected by this post. Both are considered "birthers" though.

While there may indeed be some valid concerns surrounding his birth certificate, I don't see any benefit in pursuing such prosecution now. He's going to be gone less than two years. I'll be sure to duck all un-founded accusations of disrespect for the Constitution.

It's time to focus on the extremely difficult (if not impossible) task of rebuilding this nation. Cruz is a part of that plan. No sense in arguing about "preserving the Constitution" if there's none of it left to preserve.

17 posted on 05/14/2015 10:10:30 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven

I’ve come to believe that this is only an issue for those who don’t support Cruz anyway.


18 posted on 05/14/2015 10:20:13 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: FourtySeven

One cannot compare Obama’s birth to Cruz’s birth and someone always brings up Obama when talking about Cruz.

The problem with Obama is, we don’t know if his maybe American citizenship was never registered and don’t know if his American citizenship, if it was registered, was renounced when he was a citizen of wherever he actually was born. He did attend college here, listing himself as a foreign student.

At any rate, his background is so cloudy and secret, it can’t be compared to Cruz.


24 posted on 05/14/2015 10:45:47 AM PDT by Marcella (TED CRUZ Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: FourtySeven
I too feel grateful for this post.

You shouldn't. By bringing up the "naturalization act of 1790" you are damaging Cruz. That act specifically excludes the children of foreign fathers from acquiring citizenship. obviously the guy who wrote this article didn't read the act all the way through. It hurts, it doesn't help.

It's time to focus on the extremely difficult (if not impossible) task of rebuilding this nation. Cruz is a part of that plan. No sense in arguing about "preserving the Constitution" if there's none of it left to preserve.

This is my thinking as well.

35 posted on 05/14/2015 12:15:09 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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