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Two Fights, One Gun, Two Outcomes
The Armed Lutheran ^ | May 3, 2015 | The Armed Lutheran

Posted on 05/03/2015 5:44:58 AM PDT by OK Sun

When the story of a Missouri man drawing his gun to break up a fight between teenage girls popped up on my Facebook wall, I was intrigued by the responses. Many, including some who claimed to be highly experienced shooters, were critical of the good samaritan’s actions. If you can’t break up a fight between teenage girls without a gun, you don’t need to be intervening. Consider these tales of two fights, one gun, and two very different outcomes.

The stories are amazingly similar. On April 26 at a skate park in In Farmington, Missouri, a fight broke out between what appears to be two teen aged Asian girls. As one of the girls pounds the other into submission, an unidentified man rushes in with a firearm drawn and separates them. Other teens are watching, like the one who video tapes the whole thing, doing nothing to stop the fight. No charges were filed and the identity of the girls and the good Samaritan are unknown.

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A Lutheran's perspective.
1 posted on 05/03/2015 5:44:58 AM PDT by OK Sun
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To: OK Sun

Urban teens are rabid animals and breaking up a fight between them is dangerous.


2 posted on 05/03/2015 5:49:42 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: OK Sun

Jr High and High schools are abound with punks...both male and female....lack of respect...bad or lazy parents....and the belief that no matter what the youth does...mommy and daddy will come in for the rescue.....and these idiots are going to college and expecting god paying jobs...then reality smacks them in the face.....and yet those of us that did the right things are paying for yet another generation of degenerates. ...saw this starting in 2006...even worst since Barry took office...


3 posted on 05/03/2015 5:55:40 AM PDT by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
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To: OK Sun

“If you can’t break up a fight between teenage girls without a gun, you don’t need to be intervening.”

Yeah? It worked, didn’t it?


4 posted on 05/03/2015 6:08:24 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: cripplecreek

That they simply watched is very scary. Lord of the Flies via a government education in Marxist anti-Americanism.


5 posted on 05/03/2015 6:09:52 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: OK Sun

Let them join the "Wet Hen" Club.

6 posted on 05/03/2015 6:15:31 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: OK Sun

7 posted on 05/03/2015 6:15:32 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: OK Sun

1. The ‘Samaritan’ is not a civilian.
2. If this is a justified reaction to a fistfight I suppose the teacher in the other thread would have been justified to pull a gun on the fighting students. /s

This is not a video to crow about.
.02


8 posted on 05/03/2015 6:17:08 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: 1010RD

I’m 50 years old and know my limitations. Only an idiot would step in between two rabid animals unarmed.


9 posted on 05/03/2015 6:20:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: cripplecreek

Agreed, but I’d be more terrified of the kids who were just watching. It’s tribal and for all that guy knew the tribe would turn on him for breaking up their fun. He was taking a big risk. It’s sad to watch a generation be lost.

I’m thinking of that scene from Galaxy Quest where the cute little aliens turn out to be ravenous, deadly monsters.


10 posted on 05/03/2015 6:23:40 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: WKUHilltopper
Here's a story where the guy or any other adult observer would wish he had a gun:

Fletcher lives in the gun ban, riot-happy state of Maryland where his right to armed self-defense are severely curtailed. Just four days before the fight in Missouri, Fletcher encountered two teen girls fighting near his vehicle in Dundalk, Maryland. Fletcher made the decision to intervene and was quickly set upon by other teens who beat him nearly to death.

According to the GoFundMe page set up for Mr. Fletcher: “A 61 year old disabled resident in our community was brutaly attacked by approximately 49 students from a near-by school on 4/22/2015. His Injuries include broken eye sockets, a broken nose, broken ribs, bleeding on the brain, and many lacerations.”


11 posted on 05/03/2015 6:28:50 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Agreed, but I’d be more terrified of the kids who were just watching.

Kinda like a wolfpack watching a fight for dominance. If another wolf from outside the pack is dropped in the middle it becomes the primary target of the whole pack.
12 posted on 05/03/2015 6:32:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: cripplecreek

“One man with a gun can control 100 without one.” - Lenin

Having been in a similar situation where I had to use a firearm, I can tell you that while the wolfpack will often scatter, the Type A personality types among them will seek revenge. I had to watch my back for months after that encounter, and even though I’m hundreds of miles away from where it happened and over 10 years removed from the incident, I still have nightmares about it.


13 posted on 05/03/2015 6:44:16 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: cripplecreek

My thinking exactly, but I’m from Illinois so we think sci fi aliens. Obviously, you being from Michigan it would be wolves. ;-]


14 posted on 05/03/2015 7:01:48 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

49 Students? How brave of them...I could have taken down 9. We pack in KY.


15 posted on 05/03/2015 7:09:21 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: OK Sun

If there’s no element of jeopardy in the fight using a gun to break it up is dumb. Two evenly matched girls engaged in mutual combat doesn’t rise to the level of deadly force needed which pulling a gun does introduce.

Bringing up a fight where a mob of girls were involved in changes the dynamics as a mob presents a new element.


16 posted on 05/03/2015 7:18:08 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: cripplecreek

agreed, not smart

don’t bring that gun out into the open unless you are willing to use it, what was he going to do, shoot one of them if they didn’t comply?


17 posted on 05/03/2015 7:18:40 AM PDT by dila813
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To: 1010RD

49 Students, don’t they mean Negros?


18 posted on 05/03/2015 7:20:01 AM PDT by MaxMax (Call the local GOP and ask how you can support CRUZ for POTUS, Make them talk!)
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To: dila813; Bogey78O; cripplecreek

Agreed. See my #8.

But this was no civilian CCer.


19 posted on 05/03/2015 7:29:46 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: dila813

I am sure he was willing. I would be, especially when interfering with a “family fight”. Happens all the time when a stranger gets involved and the combatants turn on the good samaritan. Just talk to some cops, backup is a life saver.


20 posted on 05/03/2015 7:32:13 AM PDT by biff (Et Tu Boeh-ner)
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