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Can archived computer files be faked with respect to date and content?
04/29/15 | Grumpygresh

Posted on 04/29/2015 8:15:40 PM PDT by grumpygresh

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1 posted on 04/29/2015 8:15:40 PM PDT by grumpygresh
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http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/bulk_file_changer.html


2 posted on 04/29/2015 8:17:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If obama speaks and th<uere is no one the<ire to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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Are you logged in?


3 posted on 04/29/2015 8:19:27 PM PDT by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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Interesting. Could you determine if such a program had been used to make the modifications?


4 posted on 04/29/2015 8:22:09 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats & GOPe delenda est. President zero gave us patient zero.)
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I have some files on my computer dated 2039 -- because I recovered from a system crash and reset my clock incorrectly. Took me a day or so to realize what I had done.

If you WANT to do that (forward or back) it's easy.

5 posted on 04/29/2015 8:22:34 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Victim" -- some people eagerly take on the label because of the many advantages that come with it.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Right off the bat?

If the record is checksummed and never meant to be modified, then no, not realistically, but given enough time and money, who knows.

Just be suspicious of anything digitized. Hackers forge forgeries of forgeries


6 posted on 04/29/2015 8:24:29 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (Give me liberty or give me a cash settlement.)
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I know that the guys I am dealing with have their clocks set correctly. But, I have reason to believe that someone in their organization changed their file dates to avoid losing money or keep their job.


7 posted on 04/29/2015 8:26:20 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats & GOPe delenda est. President zero gave us patient zero.)
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Define "opponent"? If this is a court case talk to a lawyer not to random strangers on the Internet, but the simply answer is yes anything can be faked.
8 posted on 04/29/2015 8:26:57 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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Best course of action would be to consult someone in the field of computer forensics.


9 posted on 04/29/2015 8:27:03 PM PDT by matt1234 (2015-2016 America's enemies sense obama's weakness and strike)
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It can in a specific instance. However it would be fairly hard to change all copies as they exist in archived accounts around the world

If this is some time of corporate archive then subpena the entire system. Do so suddenly and don’t give them time go and change the whole thing. At some point there should be a duplicate day.

Also a good EE guy can look at the system headers and see when a record was modified if it was modified after being created it is not an archival product There should be a change log in the system - At least this is possible with library systems and accounting software


10 posted on 04/29/2015 8:27:13 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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Quick answer: Yes. As easily as resetting the system clock and not connecting to the NIST/NTP server(s) online and then modifying the files.

Solution? Search for an independent source to compare the website files to. Definite answer; a computer forensic examination can exactly determine when a particular file was written to the drive by comparing allocated sectors with nearby ones and following which ones were written before and after nearby and contiguous sectors.

Not cheap, but will definitely answer the question.


11 posted on 04/29/2015 8:27:44 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the muzlims trying to kill them)
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I work with disk images in particular, and the app that I use for manipulating them, has a feature where I can change the recorded date stamp on each file.

Manipulating

12 posted on 04/29/2015 8:28:23 PM PDT by __rvx86 (Ted Cruz: Proving that conservative populism is a winning strategy. GO CRUZ!)
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If a public archiver like Wayback differs from what someone else is claiming by nothing but themselves, credibility would probably go to Wayback.


13 posted on 04/29/2015 8:29:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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That's above my paygrade. I just know that you can change the date.

There are several dates in the metadata of the file. You would probably want to check them all. You might catch an anomaly.

14 posted on 04/29/2015 8:31:12 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Obama speaks and there is no one there to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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I’m not ready to reveal the opponent yet, but I probably will later when I get more info. I do have a lawyer, and will likely get a computer forensics expert when I get more “evidence” to review.


15 posted on 04/29/2015 8:31:38 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats & GOPe delenda est. President zero gave us patient zero.)
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Suing, or getting sued?


16 posted on 04/29/2015 8:34:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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file creation/modification dates are extremely easy to modify ex post facto. several tools to do this. it’s one of the techniques viruses use to cover their tracks, namely clever viruses don’t let you find suspicious files based on creation/modification dates relative to when you know the virus first appeared.


17 posted on 04/29/2015 8:34:18 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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Sure, just change the date on the computer. Then save the file. It will be tagged with the time and date on the computer—unless you have the clock automatically set.


18 posted on 04/29/2015 8:35:22 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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It is a good idea to print or download evidence from the Wayback Machine or other public archives, in case it gets scrubbed.

A website is just a publicly viewable computer file, stored on a computer. You can fake file dates just as you can with files on a home computer.

You can check for anachronisms. For example, a file in Word 2010 format with a 1999 file date, or an “old” file that contains a new font.

There can be metadata in a file that the user is not aware of. And that could give them away.

Depending on the website being faked, there could be a lot of backend software that could introduce clues (database files, PHP versions, etc.)


19 posted on 04/29/2015 8:37:54 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (A slave is one who waits for someone to come and free him.)
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Would the changes leave a trail?


20 posted on 04/29/2015 8:39:14 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats & GOPe delenda est. President zero gave us patient zero.)
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