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New York Congressman Steve Israel to Propose New Bill to Ban 3D Printed Firearms
3D Print ^ | April 6, 2015 | T.E. Edwards

Posted on 04/06/2015 8:11:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

New York Congressman Steve Israel and a photo of an AR-15 which includes 3D printed parts.

Gun rights groups from Defense Distributed to the NRA to Come and Take It Texas will not be pleased with the latest piece of proposed legislation from Congressman Steve Israel. Israel, a representative from New York state, first called for legislation to ban 3D printed guns. Israel’s bill has gotten little traction at this point, but he says he’s not about to give up the fight.

In fact, Israel says he’ll be reintroducing legislation aimed at banning 3D printed, or for that matter, all fully-plastic firearms.

Called the Undetectable Firearms Modernization Act, Israel’s first failed attempt would have forbidden possessing or manufacturing any type of firearm capable of sneaking under the notice of any standard metal detector.

Israel says the proposed legislation which was co-sponsored by Republican Representative Peter King was meant to make certain “criminals and terrorists can’t produce guns that can easily be made undetectable.”

“Security checkpoints will do little good if criminals can produce plastic firearms and bring those firearms through metal detectors into secure areas like airports or courthouses,” Israel told WIRED. “When I started talking about the issue of completely plastic firearms, I was told the idea of a plastic gun is science-fiction. That science-fiction is now a dangerous reality.”

Israel says he originally wanted to create penalties for anyone who chooses to build a weapon or weapon component using a 3D printer without the proper permitting and licensing. Though he now says he won’t be targeting anyone who uses a 3D printer specifically, it’s fairly clear his push for this legislation arose from the welter of news stories surrounding firearms such as the Liberator by gun access group Defense Distributed.

Cody Wilson with the Liberator .380-3D Printed Gun.

Cody Wilson, the founder of Defense Distributed, has made no secret of his intention to do his best to thwart any such legislation via technology and free information.

While it’s not currently feasible to produce a reasonably safe handgun which uses no metallic components, an entirely 3D printed gun may some day be legally produced with non-metallic materials as advancement in such materials is moving forward at a furious pace. In fact Wilson is currently trying to get his hands on a Mark Forged Mark One 3D Printer, which is capable of printing with a mixture of thermoplastic and fibers, such as Kevlar, carbon fiber, and fiberglass. Mark Forged refused to sell him their printer, but Wilson has publicly sought an alternative route, offering a large sum of money to anyone willing to get him one of these advanced machines.

The Undetectable Firearms Act was renewed last year, but it makes no specific mention of 3D printing. With that said, Israel says his new bill is aimed at making sure current iterations of 3D printed guns can’t be legally produced without the proper licensing and marketing.

The law still lags behind recent innovations in DIY gunsmithing as the lower receiver of an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle can be printed or milled and the rest of the weapon is legally available. In fact, Defense Distributed sells a simple CNC mill capable of creating those lower receivers from aluminum.

Michael Weinberg, an analyst who works as general counsel at 3D printing service bureau Shapeways, told WIRED his company was not in favor of any bill which would make 3D printing a gun illegal. Weinberg is the author of “It Will Be Awesome If They Don’t Screw it Up: 3D Printing, Intellectual Property, and the Fight Over the Next Great Disruptive Technology and What’s the Deal with Copyright and 3D Printing?” Weinberg regularly writes about and speaks on the policy implications of emerging technologies in the press and at events.

Where do you stand on the issue of 3D printed firearms? Should legislature be put in place blocking you or me from printing guns from the privacy of our own homes? Let us know in the Bill to Ban 3D Printed Firearms forum thread on 3DPB.com.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 114th; 3dprinters; 3dprinting; banglist; democrats; ghostguns; israel; newyork; steveisrael
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To: kingu
Ban all terrorists.

Ban politicians. At least ban the ones with stupid mindsets, like that NY congressman Steve Israel. He really thinks criminals and terrorists will go through the trouble of 3D printing, when they can easily buy guns on the black market? Oh, it's about plastic guns. Well, some terrorists caused some major mayhem with some box cutters, yet they haven't banned the manufacture, sale, or possession of those box cutters.

As you say, ban all terrorists. But the lawmakers, enforcers, and jailers seem hell-bent on ignoring them and going after law-abiding citizens instead. Stupid politicians.

21 posted on 04/06/2015 8:54:37 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: smokingfrog
Is he going to ban CNC milling machines too?

Apparently Congress could do so and have it pass judicial muster =>

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3276464/posts?page=13#13

22 posted on 04/06/2015 9:00:25 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Molon Labe.....The cats out of the bag.


23 posted on 04/06/2015 9:09:42 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: smokingfrog

Need to ban most materials. The Periodic Chart is a danger to libs....


24 posted on 04/06/2015 9:12:43 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: smokingfrog

Need to ban most materials. The Periodic Chart is a danger to libs....


25 posted on 04/06/2015 9:12:44 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Greysard
Effective weapons go back to the 1500s. Little difficult to read the instructions, but it's doable.

I'm pretty sure that I have the tech to make a firearm since I've got a lathe and milling machine. I don't need CNC.

/johnny

26 posted on 04/06/2015 9:18:41 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: Ken H

For some reason the link you posted keeps bringing me back to this same thread.

All the hype about 3D printed guns is quite funny when you can make or finish a really nice lower receiver with an inexpensive CNC milling machine. Of course it is cheaper and probably easier in most cases to do it starting with a partially completed lower with jigs and common tools.


27 posted on 04/06/2015 9:24:17 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15

See post #13 re the Raich and Stewart decisions. According to established case law, the Commerce Clause permits Congress to criminalize 3D printed guns for private ownership.


28 posted on 04/06/2015 9:33:28 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://m.imgur.com/a/n89C9

4 hour hardware store gun, much cheaper than 3D printed liberator 2


29 posted on 04/06/2015 9:55:09 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The moron thinks criminals and terrorists won’t break his law.


30 posted on 04/06/2015 9:56:24 PM PDT by GeronL (CLEARLY CRUZ 2016)
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To: lavaroise

That guy says he charges $350 for a new hammer (I am sure you can find them cheaper)


31 posted on 04/06/2015 10:00:43 PM PDT by GeronL (CLEARLY CRUZ 2016)
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To: lavaroise

Nice little write up! I have seen other designs that take even less effort to put together. Nearly all of them seem like they would be more durable than a printed plastic gun.


32 posted on 04/06/2015 10:11:46 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wilson would do well to have a corporation not legally connected to him formed by a friend somewhere outside of Texas. Have its name indicate something to do with manufacturing, modeling or sculpting, and he will be able to obtain whatever he wants. He is too well known in that industry to buy the most capable equipment. Time to get serious, and stop delays due to anti-gunners in the industry.


33 posted on 04/06/2015 10:15:09 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Israel swore to uphold the constitution of the United States.
I say he should be impeached and removed from office if he won’t


34 posted on 04/06/2015 10:19:23 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (A brilliantly intelligent comment sent thru an amazingly stupid spell checker)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good luck banning a cat already out of the bag.


35 posted on 04/06/2015 10:20:36 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: null and void

A file and a little sand paper will purdy that thing right up...


36 posted on 04/06/2015 10:29:14 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Ken H
CWII Spark Ping — Ken H: See post #13. According to established case law, the Commerce Clause permits Congress to criminalize 3D printed guns for private ownership.

Raich is even worse than that: it is the government asserting that not-commerce is regulable by the commerce clause; or as Thomas said in his dissent:

If Congress can regulate this under the Commerce Clause, then it can regulate virtually anything–and the Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers.

37 posted on 04/06/2015 11:20:50 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah because look at all the people in NY who’ve died as a result of 3d printed guns. It’s the g-damn zombie apocalypse.


38 posted on 04/06/2015 11:23:47 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Maryland and Illinois are right there with New York. Then there’s California.


39 posted on 04/06/2015 11:24:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Does it surprise anyone that Steve Israel and Peter King are trying to make this kind of 3D printing illegal? Hello, morons, the horse is out of the barn and the technology is getting cheaper all the time. What you propose is too little and too late. You cannot roll back the march of technological progress.
40 posted on 04/07/2015 12:56:42 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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