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Atheist physicists often refer to a "primordial soup" as a basis for the development of life on earth. However, they cannot precisely map from that soup, in a mathematical way, into an actual life form. Sure, there are plenty of theories about atmospheric conditions that are "ripe for creating life", but it remains conjecture, although the die-hard atheist physicist presents it as factual. They use the "authority" associated with their title, or their position within a university or other research organization, providing false fodder for young minds full of mush, who could not think critically of their lives depended on it

What is "primordial soup"? Well, ask 10 different physicists or cosmologists or astronomers and you will get (10 choose 2)*100 different answers. You might as well ask an astrologist or a card reader, or a good witch for that matter.

You see, as hard as they have tried, experiments to create spontaneous life have NEVER EVER NEVER created a single life form. Sure, they claim that the "life precursors" are created in the form of proteins and amino acids, but we have yet to see even the simplest single-celled life form spontaneous appear from these experiments, where presumably they have created plenty of "primordial soup".

Now, given their miserable failures to spontaneously generate life forms, even a single one, how on earth will they demonstrate the creation of an irreducibly complex organism? How will they demonstrate the "evolution" of abstract thinking in humans? How will they explain the coordinated, parallel bio-systems development in a human fetus, or any fetus of any species for that matter?

Well, they cannot.

One has to wonder: Why do atheists who are scientists cling so tightly to ideas that have no foundations in actual fact, no foundations in solid theorems backed up with data acquired through lab experiments? After all, aren't these same atheists scientists always challenging proponents of Intelligent Design to backup their assertions with actual data derived from lab work?

Let me put it this way: anyone of you atheists physicists out there who can present a case for evolution from the simplest of life forms to abstract thinking in humans will win an all expense paid trip to the Galapagos Islands. Better yet, I will not only pay for your trip to the island, I will also give you $1000 in spending money.

Remember to present your case using the scientific method: (1) Propose a theorem for evolution from the simplest life forms to a human being with the abstract thinking function (2) Design lab experiments to validate your theorem (3) Describe your test cases in detail (4) Record the results of each test case in detail (5) Map the data to the original thesis (6) demonstrate via data that you have proven the validity of your thesis.

In fact, you will fail. There is no way to evolve a simple life form to abstract thinking. You are doomed.

When you are done with this use case, then let's try this one: how did the first life form come to be?

GOOD LUCK but there is no hope to solve these problems!

One thing we do know is that each cell membrane contains epi-genetic encodings. This means that somehow, in some way, an "intelligence" was able to generate a "programming sequence", or set of parallel programmed sequences, which contained the instruction sets necessary to build a more complex life form. But the problem for the atheist physicist is that unless the "primordial soup" contained actual life forms, there would be no way for epi-genetic programming sequences to actually be executed. But we already have admissions from each and every atheist physicist that the primordial soup was full of "pre-life" conditions, not life itself.

So the impossibility of answering this challenge actually starts and ends at the primordial soup.

But I will give all of you a break. Let's assume that the primordial soup has already successfully done its job and created a single-celled life form. I will let you start from there to show the evolution to abstract thinking.

Read?.....Go!

1 posted on 03/31/2015 11:25:10 PM PDT by allessior
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To: allessior
"Atheist physicists" don't claim that evolution = abiogenesis, even though they're not biologists and aren't experts on either one.

But they do know the difference between a theory and a theorem, which apparently the author of this piece does not.

2 posted on 04/01/2015 12:01:18 AM PDT by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47 -- with leather.)
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To: allessior

No primordial soup for you, physicist!


3 posted on 04/01/2015 12:08:55 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: allessior

Very interesting.


4 posted on 04/01/2015 12:12:36 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: allessior
How could natural processes generate life from non-living materials? Putting aside religion, theology, and philosophy, science looks only at the natural, material processes at work in the physical world and assumes that scientific inquiry pursued on that basis offers the only rational way to identify and understand those processes. Thus science categorically reject supernatural explanations for the creation of life, including human life.

Yet many scientists also believe in God and practice religion with sincere personal faith. In doing so, they recognize that science, even at its best and most powerful, offers only an incomplete understanding of life and of human existence and its ends and purposes. For faithful scientists, the discipline of science can be seen as a way to understand God's rule book for how the natural world was created and works.

We may expect that scientific understanding of the origins of life will continue to progress, perhaps one day even to meeting your demand for an explanation of the precise mechanisms involved. For ultimate meaning though, science is inadequate, leaving that to religion.

5 posted on 04/01/2015 12:39:47 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: allessior

“One thing we do know is that each cell membrane contains epi-genetic encodings.”

No.

Cell membranes are not nor are where the genetic material resides. They are lipid bilayers and protein, mainly.

Epigenetic regulation takes place in the nucleus and is covalent modification of DNA and histone proteins.


7 posted on 04/01/2015 1:38:46 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: allessior

Here’s a better explanation:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3274422/posts


9 posted on 04/01/2015 5:46:45 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: allessior; Rockingham; FredZarguna; shibumi
from the article: "...there are plenty of theories about atmospheric conditions that are "ripe for creating life", but it remains conjecture, although the die-hard atheist physicist presents it as factual."

There are no confirmed theories about the origins of life on Earth, only a growing number of unconfirmed hypotheses, including various forms of abiogenesis and panspermia.
All such hypotheses are based in fact, but none are themselves "fact", and are never presented in science as "fact", claims in this article notwithstanding.

All such hypotheses begin with the fact that under certain conditions, certain organic chemicals will naturally self-replicate, imperfectly.
Another name for imperfect replication is, yes, "evolution".

When, where and how such conditions might have existed on early Earth is a matter of great scientific curiosity, but the fact is the first evidence of pre-life is found in rocks only a few hundred million years younger than the Earth itself.
Further facts include evidence of pre-life becoming certain-life over the following billion years or so.

You could look at it this way: the period of time since the Cambrian Explosion of multi-celled organisms is roughly 500 million years, but before this "explosion" there were seven 500 million year periods during which no such "explosion" happened.
So life on Earth took a very long time indeed, getting its act together and its ducks in a row, before conditions made the Cambrian Explosion possible.

So here is the bottom line:

  1. The geological and fossil records are facts, as are results of radio-metric dating techniques.

  2. Their interpretation as "evolution" is a many-times confirmed theory.

  3. Ideas about how life first originated on Earth are all still unconfirmed hypotheses.

Therefore, differences between "fact", "theory" and "hypothesis" should be clear in everyone's mind, even in those who loathe science for its a priori assumption of methodological naturalism.

11 posted on 04/02/2015 3:49:17 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective.)
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