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Could Obama Bypass the Supreme Court?
nytimes ^ | March 17, 2015 | William Baude

Posted on 03/17/2015 7:08:42 AM PDT by PROCON

CHICAGO — IT is time to talk about President Obama’s contingency plan for health care. The Supreme Court heard oral arguments earlier this month in King v. Burwell, a case challenging the provision of tax credits on federal insurance exchanges. While the legal issues are dry lawyers’ fare — how to interpret several interconnected phrases of the Affordable Care Act — the practical stakes are high. The government estimates that millions of Americans will be left without affordable health insurance if it loses.

While the administration may well prevail, it has expressed remarkable pessimism about its options if it does lose. The secretary of health and human services, Sylvia Mathews Burwell, wrote to Congress last month about the administration’s lack of a contingency plan: “We know of no administrative actions that could, and therefore we have no plans that would, undo the massive damage to our health care system that would be caused by an adverse decision.”

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KEYWORDS: aca; obamacare; scotus; tyranny
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To: PROCON
The administration would simply be refusing to extend the Supreme Court’s reasoning to the millions of people who, like the plaintiffs, may be eligible for tax credits but, unlike the plaintiffs, did not sue.

Well, then, how about an immediate class action suit, on behalf of all the millions of regular, taxpaying victims who lost their policies, and/or saw both their premiums and deductibles skyrocket, while at the same time getting "coverage" that they neither want or can ever use? They certainly can claim standing.

Unless the SC can declare that all the Federal and State statues against fraud do not apply to rogue elected officials.

That would be interesting.

Include me in.

21 posted on 03/17/2015 7:29:27 AM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Yes, our Forefathers were brilliant in their inclusion of the 2nd Amendment; now what, is it time?


22 posted on 03/17/2015 7:30:33 AM PDT by PROCON (Always Give 100% --- Unless you're donating blood.)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
Impeachment, followed by full repeal of OZEROCare is the only option. But that won’t happen because the GOPe will not do it.
What’s Plan B?

Faggots and pitchforks?

23 posted on 03/17/2015 7:30:39 AM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
"Mitchie and Little Johnny Boehner that won't happen"

Not quite right. A 2/3 majority in the Senate is required, and too many democRats won't let that happen.

24 posted on 03/17/2015 7:31:28 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

What’s Plan B?

Surrender, and we are already living it.


25 posted on 03/17/2015 7:32:19 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: PROCON
"...but only with respect to the four plaintiffs who brought the suit."

It's called a precedent. It will open the floodgates to millions of suits that lower courts will have to rule likewise on. Hussein's goon squad may be JV, but surely they've considered this.

26 posted on 03/17/2015 7:32:36 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Mouton

Several officers in the Praetorian Guard ended up murdering Caligula while they were escorting him through an access tunnel, out of sight of any witnesses.

Just a little aside from history. History may not always repeat itself, but it is an excellent echo chamber.


27 posted on 03/17/2015 7:34:22 AM PDT by alloysteel (It isn't science, it's law. Rational thought does not apply.)
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To: PROCON

This is the kind of insanity that can only exist in la-la lawyer land. Should Obama lose in King, it would mean that many billions of dollars annually are being given illegally to millions of recipients. On Constitutional grounds, this is a presidential usurpation of the power of the purse. On narrowly legalistic grounds, these billions of dollars would be coming either from taxpayers, or non-subsidized ratepayers who are being overcharged to generate the subsidy dollars. If I am being deliberately overchaged so the Obama can pay an illegal subsidy, surely I would have standing to sue.


28 posted on 03/17/2015 7:35:29 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: JohnBrowdie
the founders never considered the possibility that the person holding the job of president would be so brazen about their disregard for the Constitution.

I asked that exact question repeatedly 8 years ago when the "Manchurian Candidate" permanently left his mask at home.

We still don't know who this guy is.
And Congress doesn't seem inclined to pass a watertight statute concerning eligibility for office and immediate remedies for Constitutional abuse.

Remember, that Congress has the ability to limit the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court.

What we need are candidates for congress not bereft of both IQ and ethics.

29 posted on 03/17/2015 7:36:45 AM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: alloysteel

Hopefully: Our veniet dies


30 posted on 03/17/2015 7:40:20 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Mouton
...when the IWON declares himself emperor citing his authority to declare Marshal Law...

Can we once and for all decide that the proper spelling for that eventuality is MARTIAL LAW?

31 posted on 03/17/2015 7:44:21 AM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: PROCON

Why not? Their Check$ will still cash and their Balance$ will still go up. The 3 branches of the tree of TOTALITARIANISM have really grown over the years.

—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

—Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.


32 posted on 03/17/2015 7:45:14 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Cheerio
We need to identify the exit point for emigrating from the USA.

And where are you going to go, Skippy?
Are we all going to invade and "transform" Liberia?

33 posted on 03/17/2015 7:47:26 AM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Bears repeating!!

"The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed—where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once."
Judge Alex Kozinski in his dissent to the Ninth Circuit’s denial of review in Silveira v. Lockyer:

34 posted on 03/17/2015 7:55:32 AM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: PROCON

Past time but not too late.


35 posted on 03/17/2015 7:57:29 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: PROCON

Doubt that he’ll have to. The bet here is that either Kennedy or Roberts will do a folderooo.


36 posted on 03/17/2015 8:06:18 AM PDT by kenmcg
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To: PROCON

Obama’s 15 minutes is almost so as it ends he will become totally insane


37 posted on 03/17/2015 8:10:30 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: PROCON

Court rulings have never stopped this guy before.

The disturbing thing: our government is actually arguing that it doesn’t have to follow a law that it created itself.

And half the Court already argues that no, it doesn’t have too.

Just think about that a minute.


38 posted on 03/17/2015 8:13:21 AM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: jsanders2001
Anyone doubt he is the Antichrist anymore? If not he’s sure as hell paving the way for him big time.

The frightening thing is that Obama is not the Antichrist. The real Antichrist will be far more intelligent, far more energetic, and just as evil. The real Antichrist will be far worse.

39 posted on 03/17/2015 8:16:53 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: jsanders2001

“Anyone doubt he is the AntiChrist anymore?”

Yeah, he doesn’t really fit the bill. The antichrist’s activities are focused on Jerusalem, not America.


40 posted on 03/17/2015 8:36:36 AM PDT by Boogieman
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