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Majority of Biology Teachers Hesitant About Evolution
Creation Evolution Headlines ^ | 03/10/2015

Posted on 03/10/2015 8:20:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

It’s all reconciled via the clockmaker argument.


21 posted on 03/10/2015 8:53:36 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (White privilege? No. White Liberal Privilege? Yes.)
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To: BigEdLB

Nonsense. Prove it.


22 posted on 03/10/2015 8:53:49 PM PDT by Fungi (Evolution is piece by piece over billions of years. At what point did a precursor become a human?)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Big Bang theory: The Universe was in a very high density state and then expanded.”

“Genesis: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth”


23 posted on 03/10/2015 8:54:13 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Fungi

Your reply is my point exactly.


24 posted on 03/10/2015 8:55:03 PM PDT by BigEdLB (We're experienceing the rule of a Roman Emperor, Barack I)
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To: SeekAndFind
Pretty much the state of modern union teachers . . .

Don't know much about history
Don't know much biology
Don't know much about a science book
Don't know much about the French I took

25 posted on 03/10/2015 8:55:38 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: clearcarbon

Teaching evolution is a non-issue, just present the scientific basis and let the kids decide for themselves if the need a different belief system. What handicaps public school teachers is the inability to present the creation argument for comparison.

And what should really give teachers difficulty is trying to convince students that some people are genetically disposed to be homosexual because it is obvious that homos cannot breed and pass along that genetic trait. If blue-eyed people could not breed, there would be no blue-eyed people, and so it would be for homos, if they really were “born that way”.


26 posted on 03/10/2015 8:57:53 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Fungi

We are on the same page. Thank you.


27 posted on 03/10/2015 8:58:28 PM PDT by Fungi (Evolution is piece by piece over billions of years. At what point did a precursor become a human?)
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To: ifinnegan

>>It is actually that unlike other disciplines, evolution is not taught well because it is convoluted and those teaching it aren’t very good.<<

Or maybe those who can’t understand it are just slow.

If you READ the original article it is clear the problem is a teaching problem not a TToE problem.

But I suspect I am speaking to one of those “a tornado can’t make a 747 in a junk yard” people who can’t understand stochasticism.


28 posted on 03/10/2015 9:02:06 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (islam: The hands of the Chinese, the mouths of the arabs, the minds of the French.)
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To: dr_lew

Yes, it did.

But now it takes findings from the basic biological sciences and rehashes the findings it an evolutionary language.

Nothing original.


29 posted on 03/10/2015 9:02:14 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Elsiejay

Thanks for the response.

But I don’t really understand your comment.


30 posted on 03/10/2015 9:03:01 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

btw: many/most teachers can’t understand the Constitution, the Bill Of Rights, the source of Freedom and American Exceptionalism.

Are they convoluted because they are wrong?

By your definition that would be “YES.”


31 posted on 03/10/2015 9:04:22 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (islam: The hands of the Chinese, the mouths of the arabs, the minds of the French.)
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To: freedumb2003

You seem to only insult.

Why? Why the anger and misplaced hubris?

Have you ever even taken a university level biochemistry or molecular biology class?

Have you ever run a gel or a column? Ever prepared competent cells and transformed them? Ever cloned and sequenced a cDNA or gene?

Have you ever written a scientific article?


32 posted on 03/10/2015 9:08:11 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Leaning Right
So students should learn about Evolution, and hear the evidence. But they should also learn about Creationism (in the general sense), and hear the evidence.

My idea exactly. For evolution, they could spend a semester. For Creationism, one day.

33 posted on 03/10/2015 9:11:22 PM PDT by Paradox (and now here we are....)
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To: freedumb2003

“btw: many/most teachers can’t understand the Constitution, the Bill Of Rights, the source of Freedom and American Exceptionalism.”

I don’t think the Constitution provides a very good analogy to evolution, or any other science for that matter.

I would think University or Law school professors can teach the Constitution.

You seem to not understand that the poor teachers are the researchers themselves.


34 posted on 03/10/2015 9:16:40 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan
Ever cloned and sequenced a cDNA or gene?

Yes, is called mitosis no?

35 posted on 03/10/2015 9:18:36 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ifinnegan

>>You seem to only insult.<<

Sorry you took it that way.

>>Why? Why the anger and misplaced hubris?<<

Trying to teach people ignorance=good is a bad thing and should not be done.

>>Have you ever even taken a university level biochemistry or molecular biology class?

Have you ever run a gel or a column? Ever prepared competent cells and transformed them? Ever cloned and sequenced a cDNA or gene?

Have you ever written a scientific article?<<

I have read many — as far as me being as molecular biologist it would amaze me if you are one.

My science knowledge is pretty solid on this one and the straw man that started this thread is still there.

“Bad Teaching”=”TToE is wrong” — the dumbest linkage ever (and also misrepresents the article which is borderline criminal)

You drive a car — have you ever built one?

You can feel free to try to toss me “tests” — I know of what I speak since my eyes are not closed.

Nice attempt at legerdemain, though.


36 posted on 03/10/2015 9:22:07 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (islam: The hands of the Chinese, the mouths of the arabs, the minds of the French.)
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To: ifinnegan

>>I don’t think the Constitution provides a very good analogy to evolution, or any other science for that matter.

I would think University or Law school professors can teach the Constitution.

You seem to not understand that the poor teachers are the researchers themselves.<<

Woe, good non sequiteur.

The thesis is “Teachers’ can’t teach or understand TToE b/c the theory is too convoluted to be true.”

I merely note that Teacher’s can’t teach or understand the USC and our freedom so, by your definition “it is too convoluted to be true.”

Logic. Learn it. Live it. Love it.


37 posted on 03/10/2015 9:25:44 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (islam: The hands of the Chinese, the mouths of the arabs, the minds of the French.)
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To: SeekAndFind

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When people that normally tell the truth are put in a position where they have to lie, as in teaching evolution, they will always be uncomfortable.

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38 posted on 03/10/2015 9:33:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ifinnegan

Evolution is soft and hand wavy and rides the coattails of the above mentioned.


Exactly.


39 posted on 03/10/2015 9:34:28 PM PDT by boycott
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To: dayglored

So you believe in God, but the doctrine you stated contradicts the Bible.

Can you cite Bible verses which support your statement “I believe that Evolution is the action of God’s mighty hand, continually creating and re-creating the range and diversity of living things.”.


40 posted on 03/10/2015 9:35:13 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.)
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